All Comments on 'Holly and Greg'

one side has a deep chasm. TK U MLJ LV NV

Well conceived, strongly executed, reasonable and believable.

Thanks for sharing.

This is a very realistic story that is the essence of LW. Both spouses were imperfect but loved each other and came out of their crisis stronger. 5 stars!

reasonable man

Some great stories get lost in Non-erotic. I have no problem with implied or no sex in other categories. Good story. Sympathetic characters. I’d like to say Turner and Young seem a little caricatured, but I know a guy just like them - an entitled ex NFLer with the amorality of a rabid dog. It’s painful to think of guys like him perpetrating themselves on the general public. Thanks for another thoughtful piece.*****

I appreciate what the characters went through. The husband admitted his failures and she admitted the same. A nice story about being stopped before it was too late. I like it that the husband reacted early rather then to see if his wife failed before confronting her. Thanks again.

Most of these stories end in a burn the bitch scenario or over the top rubbing the husbands nose in it. It is really good that this marriage was able to be salvaged. I hate sexual predators that seduce married women just because it gets them off. What happened to these two assholes wasn't enough! A 4 Star Rating.

Well written. This is the kind of story that should be in Loving Wives instead of the cuckold crap and hot wife crap that is coming to dominate LW.

I enjoyed it. More stories like this and I might just submit my own in this category. The knit picking in LW is really starting to be a drag. Thanks for your STORY.

Now go back to loving wives! 5*

well told, as usual. The thing is that there are lines everywhere in life and if enough are crossed there is no coming back. In a marriage there are even more of these lines and you don't have to screw someone else to have crossed too many lines. I always look forward to your stories, except the ones about sharing. Not for me. But you guys are excellent story tellers and I do like a well told story. Thanks for sharing.

You forgot lesson number 5.

You can always rely on Nordstrom's generous return policy!

A large amount of any cheating occurs in the mind. It's the attraction and temptation and the choice to cultivate the relationship as much as the act itself.

I've never understood stories that have the husband knowing temptation is happening, yet sitting back and waiting to see if the wife will stray. If that husband loves his wife and his marriage, why doesn't he fight for it? Why wouldn't he intercede? Well done.

Really uplifting story.

Another enjoyable story from you, keep up the good work!

I really enjoyed this story.

Billy Lines

This is a good flash story. You guys are better in writing shorter stuff, you kept me on the edge the first half. It is somewhat strange that a seducer would have somebody to "report to," it could be better with simply boasting but then again there are all sorts of characters. I am glad you did not resort to phony psychology, "throwing up" and similar nonsense that is so prevalent on LE.

You are generally more original writers than most on LE and you could seriously improve your longer stories by trying to introduce more suspense in the way you write.

I liked this story because it rang very plausible to me. And the resolution was good in that they communicated prior to crossing the big point of no return. Keep up the good work!

Perfect example you don't need sex in a story to respectfully earn a 5 star rating. I thought I had read about everything from these 2, but was pleasantly surprised finding this little gem. My favorite husband and wife writing team, BillandKate. 5 Stars!

A wife contemplating cheating to get further up in her work with no concrete assurance is not really wholly committed to her marriage and family. After all she went shopping with her future paramour, she bought a pair of heals and a little black dress, and her bought a little number for the bedroom. To me all that was left was the conference and the cheating. Ive read in many stories that its not the responsibility of ether the husband or wife to police each other. When your in a committed marriage you police yourself, for what kind of marriage do you have, if you have to watch your spouse constantly?

She considered prostituting herself for advancement, selling herself for more money. What's sad is most don't think of that angle.

Glad I was perusing your work. Short but quite good. Full marks and sorry to hear about the bullshit real life destruction.

Short and to the point. Confrontation, then get rid the bastards trying to fuck up a marriage. Too bad the real life couple didn't do this.

reflects what a husband would actually do in those circumstances....none of the usual LW nonsense: "...I wasn't going to confront her because I wanted to know whether she'd make the right choice, and if I stop her now she'd just do it later when I might not know."

How many LW authors use that absurd trope as a device to cover for the fact that they lack the ability to create an interesting plot not based on a weak husband or a "Martian Slut Rayed" wife?

Good little story.

Another outstanding effort.

This one was very realistic. I loved when he told her to come home now. Way to tackle the problem straight away. Thank you

Can't be any clearer than those. The story is a fine blueprint on how to deal with the issue at hand, too bad the couple down the road didn't follow the same map. Another unique way to spot the problem, a heated car seat and it was all done without one unnecessary word.

William Conrad was a WWII fighter pilot and the original Marshal Matt Dillon on radio. He didn't get the part on television because the studio didn't think he looked the part. So the creature from the original movie 'The Thing From Another World', James Arness became a star. Signed: BTW

Thanks for a story about couples interceding early to save the marriage instead of waiting to gather facts to improve their divorce results.

Did anyone check up on Karen? She needed help as well.

Good story! Excellent advice!

Great save the marriage tale. Just lucky that Greg saw the signs and took action that saved their marriage. I question on why Holly went out with her boss in the first place, I seemed quite apparent what his end game was and she should have seen that he was just trying to seduce her. At any rate story that had a positive end. Well done 5 stars

Thanks for the story.

It’s always nice when an author; or authors, are willing to write a loving wives story that’s not a BTB story. I realize that’s what most of the male readers want to read, so I want to thank you for having the courage to go against the grain to write a different type of LW story.

Keep up the good work, and thank you for the time, and effort, you put in to entertain us readers. KS

Holly is still a cheating slut who will fuck another man sooner this time

To the anonymous commentator below. Did you read the story? Holly didn't cheat, and may never have. We'll never know because her husband intervened. Maybe, like her husband, she would have backed out when push came to shove. No matter, she recommitted to the marriage and hopefully they lived happily ever after. Sorry you are so damaged you have to think otherwise.

"Number one; don't use another person to replace the emotional support you should be getting from your spouse." Great wisdom found therein. Also: women on jobs are targets for seducers.

Superb. That's how a man would react . Mature and dignified way. If one sees one's wife with another man it is logical to confront or address her and not pull out a mobile camera.

5* all the way.

YO GUYS!! DO NOT GET MARRIED..... EVER!

Listen to the wisdom on page 2

yuk. That was gross. If this were real life, this husband would be set for a life of heartaches as this selfish simple minded bitch keeps being tempted over and over.

Do not listen to pummel187. Marriage can be beautiful. You need to choose wisely. It helps to know the other person really well. I knew my wife for many years since we were kids. We have been married for over 35 years. Our kids and grandkids enrich our lives. Pummel can live a lonely life because of lack of trusting anyone.

I would never trust her again.

Good story. Not sure why so many commenters below say they would never trust her again. Look at the husband's own experiences and his near miss. In the conversations that were recorded she never derided her husband and stood up for him. She never kissed him (except the failed cheek misses). When followed there was no hand holding. Nothing intimate. And she never outright agreed to the seducer's proposals. She was clearing doing something wrong and in danger of betraying the marriage. It is not clear that she wad going to go away to the conference. That would come out in counseling. She probably did worry about her husband's trips to Dallas and the seducer preyed on that. Not to mention sexual harassment and promise of promotion. Unlike so many LW stories she did not reduce or deny sex to her husband, and to the MC had obvious signs of love of their family when watching him with their kids. Yes the shopping trip was tawdry and the teddy was inexcusable, crossing aime that should never be crossed. But the MC acted with purpose and was forthright and intervened. She agreed to all her husband's demands. She was ashamed and ended it with the asshole, saying she never wanted to be alone with him again. A telling statement showing that she was being heavily seduced for some time and while her resistance was slowly crumbling, she did not enjoy what was happening and was confused and conflicted. I suspect talking it out with her husband that night and thr next day, ended up being a relief to her. Then outrage when she heard the various recordings. Following the slimeball was really smart btw. Made it a slam dunk for the lawsuit / settlement. Then the hard work began in counseling. Thr MC confessed why his first marriage died (see not always a cheater) but also about his near miss. The three rules at the end are very wise. Sorry about the real life couple that inspired the story where I am guessing the affair progressed farther into the physical and divorce is inevitable.

[I'll confront her tomorrow, no sense in drawing it out.]

=== finally a proactive husband who goes on the offensive! Glad he saved their marriage. However a post-nuptial might be in order.

Enjoyable story, enjoyable outcome, a strong man of action not a weak cuck. He deserved to save his marriage.

I leaned on someone emotionally, as well as doing things I shouldn't have been doing secretly. And the communication had broken down on a serious topic with my wife.

Needless to say, my very brief affair caused problems for years even though I denied it was physical. She couldn't get past the wondering .....

Reminds me of a story her on Lit. Divorce or Forgive. But the wife chose a revenge fuck. Not exactly what my ex did. Same result though.

A great cautionary tale of how a good relationship can go down hill quickly.

Also a good story of how communication and proactivity can save a relationship.

Nice cautionary tale. Sadly, the people my ex turned to for emotional support were family - her father and her oldest sister who had been married four times before she passed away in a fire. There was also a close friend from church. I considered her husband to be one of my closest friends, not realizing the poison his wife was injecting in our marriage until it was too late. In other words, people I trusted to have my back.

The poison spewing from her family began before our first anniversary - not something you’d expect from a Southern Baptist minister (her father) and a respected evangelist (her sister). Before we had celebrated our first year together as man and wife, she had begun pulling away from me and our intimate times were getting further and further apart. For a 22 year hormone driven half-Italian male, you can imagine what happened next. Before our fourth year of marriage, she came to me and suggested I take my former girlfriend as my concubine since my wife couldn’t handle (read that as, wouldn’t handle) my high sex drive. So, right before heading overseas for a military posting, I took her up on it. Of course, my ex was devastated that I had actually take her up on her offer and the distance between us only grew.

By the time our fourth child had been born and we celebrated ten years together, I was tired of having to beg and cajole her into having intimate relations and the big affair occured. By then, we only had sex when she wanted another child. Once she had a partial hysterectomy for health reasons, the sex had virtually dried up entirely. I was climbing the walls with desire! I turned to two colleagues for relief.

Donna, a nurse and former biker moll, and Marie, a business partner, were fantastic lovers. We did things that the ex would never allow me to do. The ex and I tried to reconcile and make the marriage work for another seven years before I began to suspect her of cheating. I could never prove it and truthfully her skills were improving so I ignored any dalliances she may have been having, After all, it would have been hypocritical of me to expect complete fidelity even though we had been through marital counseling and renewed our vows. It wasn’t until she absconded with three of our four children to live across the country close to her oldest sister and began shacking up with a known drug dealer that I filed for divorce for the children’s protection.