All Comments on 'What Did I Do that was Wrong? 02'

Enjoyed it, as I knew I would. Writing very well done, stoty interesting, thats all you can want. Thanks.

the counselor never points out how very selfish she has been. it is all about what SHE wants, not about what builds up their marriage. i know the goal is to get them together, but doesn't he have to make her realize 'how selfish she has been' to keep the marriage? otherwise she will just break it down again....

he needs to have a few lovers of his own ...that and only that will restore his confidence ...he has to see independently that he still has it...maybe they need to swing ...but i do agree that for now she would be better off her not meeting other men...another episoge and him finding out would kill all of what they had...so i think she really needs to bite the bullet and bring him home a nice hottie to fuck and get his confidence back ...shoot maybe more than one ....maybe they both start swinging and yes she will have to get used to the idea as he did and at least she dont have to worry about not being able to get hard ...just wet...and even for that she has lube...so get him laid ...then both either swing with others or neither does ...but i think it would do her a world of good to watch him fuck another woman ...and i think it would restore his configence for him to see he can really please say some very young sweet thing .....if leanne loses him so what shes lost him anyway...if not she may trgain her hubby with a hard cock ....shoot maybe thats all he needs to bring it out in the open and both swing and be with each other as they both fuck other people...either way i do agree with the accessment the arrangement they had will have to change

I have read all of you postings many time over. when there is no new stories. I look back at old stories that you and others have posted and reread them.you are in a select group of posters that I look forward to. Thank you for your writing and I look forward to more of this story and many more. JRJ

but, she certainly broke her own rules. This was her sixth time with same guy which Mark read in their body language.More important she brought him home, sure he was going away the next day but maybe he would come back for a vacation and start sniffing around for new opportunities.

Also by her own statement this was the second time that she brought someone home. That should have been zero. She really should have stayed with only once with each lover and in a hotel or motel.

On to the next chapter! Thanks Ohio, I have been feeling that the quality was falling without you, the Wanderer, Josephus publishing regularly (Yes DG Hear has been making valiant effort and we can not forget Winterfrog)

Really there is no way to get around this

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"Did you consider giving up the sex with other men?"

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"Of course I did, Tom!" she snapped at me. "What kind of selfish bitch do you think I am?"

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once again what has happened is the author has made the wife so self centered so vile and the therapist so unskilled and so weak that its killing the story.

Husband loved her too much, and only his personality trait of being able to shut everything away from him let him go along with her selfish habits. Once she violated his 'space' so that he could no longer keep his visions and feelings away, the deal is off. Her story made her, if anything, less likable than she was during his story. The best thing now would be for him to deliver some sort of pay back and then leave her alone (with her lovers). I wouldn't be surprised if, when he shows up for their couples therapy, to find her and the therapist involved in their own joint therapy.

Trust will be a major problem if they try to rebuild the marriage. She is so good at hiding her sex exploits that I would never expect him to accept her word about her activities. He kept himself in the dark when he knew what was happening. Having to question her about her day and think about her infidelity will erode the marriage. A slow lingering death. ***** Better for them to go their own way. ***** She understands how he must feel when he thinks of her with other men. She does it anyway! Really, let her go so she can have the life that was so important to her that she was willing to degrade the one she supposedly loves.

This chapter is all about Leanne-She is really into herself. She's real bad off! What can be done. Well Tom summarized possibilities at the end of this Chapter. Leanne is now 35, she has a good job as a real estate salesperson, but aside from having sex with a myriad of men she selects, what does she do. Ohio either simply does not talk about the rest of Leanne's life (her girlfriends, colleagues at Century 21, families including her two sisters, etc) OR there just isn't much to describe. Ohio has developed 3 strong characters in the story but there aren't any supporting characters to speak of. I think that Mark needs to meet other women and play the field. He deserves it and Leanne must agree to this outlet for him! That way, at least, he will most likely get his full sexual functions back. Tom's intervention is exceedingly important at this stage in the story. Good Luck Leanne, you need it! RAG

All the wife thinks about is herself, her satisfaction, weather it's sex with other men or her disturbing relationship with her husband. He is pitiful, she is so easy to hate........is her name really HILLARY C????? Let the poor bastard go his own way, he would NEVER trust this woman. Hell, he's be better off comitting suicide, at least it would be quick and final, not a lingering death of worrying about this selfish bitch for the rest of his life.

Can a person change a pleasurable habit of at least ten years within a moment? It is hard to believe that is possible. She was never caught for many years, she will say yes now and but will go back to her old ways after a few months of living in hell (no sex with others is hell to her). The reality of the situation is, Mark bubble has been burst,he even considered that she had sex with at least 40 men. All done behind his back.

How could he accept her back with all this negative thought of her? There will always be the question of trust? In future any man that shows her friendliness,Mark will revert back into his shell. He will always think,is this one of her fuck buddy? If the man smile at him, he will think, "he is laughing at me". The mind is fragile.

No the way forward is to go separate way. It maybe painful but it would be for the best for both of them.

Very good so far. I think someone needs to point out to Leanne how selfish and one way she has been all along. That is the one area I have trouble with in this one. Looking forward to the rest to see how you deal with it.

Loved it

Very Well done - looking forward to the continuation! However, as pointed out by several commentors, it is time to face the facts. 1. She is and has been a self-centered slut. 2. She has LOST forever whatever relationship she had with Mark. There may be an ongoing relationship, but it cannot be the same. 3. Her personality has a dishonest side that cannot be avoided. If she hopes to have ANY relationship with Mark, she has to be honest with: a)herslef b) her husband and c) her therapist. She is a LOSER plain and simple. Mark would be better off moving on to find a new woman who has no difficulty beig faithful to her marriage vows. That is obviously what Mark needs. He is NOT comfortable bein a cuckold, and needs to simply put her behind him. IT will be very interesting to see how the author develops things in the next episode.

A great story with a different slant than the usual story in this catagory. Looking forward to the next chapter.Good writing as with all of your stories.

<b>The idea of some sort of new marriage / reconciliation at SOME point is NOT wrong per se... but the KEY issues HAVE to be resolved FIRST. </b> To be sure the author (OHIO) does not HAVE to resolve the issues/ conflict but then he shouldnt expect folks to love the story either.

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as I said in chapter 1 I figured the Therapist would NOT focus on Leanne actions and so far so good. It is imperative that this question NEVER gets asked since that would ruin the chance of any reconciliation.

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<i> Tell me, Tom! Tell me, please: what did I do that was wrong? We had an agreement, and no one can say that I didn't keep my side of the bargain. I was totally careful, totally discreet.</i>

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No she did NOT keep her side of the bargain and the therapist says NOTHING to challenge that delusion

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Think about it... Leanne can fuck ANYONE she wants to but she has to keep it seperate from the marriage. But she cant even do THAT! Once the deluded wimp husband sees that she cant even keep these extremely liberal marriage rules... there is noting left to reconcile.

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<i>"But are you ready to give it up entirely, if Mark asks you to?"

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<b>"I ... think so. I haven't been this unhappy in years, maybe ever. I certainly realize how much Mark and my marriage mean to me, now that everything's so fucked up.</b></i>

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Gee Now THAT is re-assuring!!. She just finished telling

the therapist that she can give up other men... MAYBE...if Mark comnes back to her <b> so that things return to Normal</b>.

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the problem is that Leanne's defintion of Normal is fucking other men.

Is it this easy to pick up random strange guys? She has a full time job and she does not go clubbing at night. The men are not from her work spot, they aren't clients, they don't even know her name or anything else about her. So where do all these guys come from? Just not believeable.

the patient said this, the doctor "suggested" that "stories" I've ever come across. <p>

the "doctor" sounded idiotically stupid; the wife sounded a total braindead idiot; the husband sounded like a little boy surrounded by bigger bullying boys and he's afraid to open his mouth, because he knows he's going to get wack over the head the minute he opens his mouth, no matter how valid a point he's trying to make. and the "boy" is not one we would love to help, either. he's the kind nasty kind who picks his nose, lick his finger, whines a lot in other occasions,,, but pretends he's really nice. <p>

no intelligent doctor/sounselor/psychotherapist is going to say to a sex addict, who tells them she likes "casual" sex like some of us like our favorite icecream brand, <p>

"Well, Susuan, we live in a society that likes to dictate to people, but you certainly don't have to do as it says, as you are a grown up and you certainly don't need to do as our society says"! <p>

Rather such a gibberish nonsense, as an attempt at a "counseling"/"soothing"/"non-threatening" response, an intelligent therapst would simply say to such a patient: <p>

"Susan, as you know, other than the EMOTIONAL tolls such behaviors can and DO cause in a marriage, you KNOW casusal sex with attractive strangers is EXTREMELY dangerous in terms of both spreading and CONTRACTING sexually transmitted diseases, SOME of which can be very painful and incurable, while others DEADLY. As a doctor, I would be remiss if I did not warn you and remind you of the kind of RISKS you are taking, for both you and your health and your husband's health, since you two, presumably (even if no emotional tolls exist) would still be making love/having sex, exchanging bodily fluids.... <p>

"Because that's really all there is: to have sex with someone is to exchange bodily fluids with them, after all said and done, and whatever that person has in his/her body is given to you and what's in yours is given to him.... Okay, now that I've reminded you of the MEDICAL/biological dangers of such bodily fluid exchange, we can get back to dealing with, talking about, the EMOTIONAL tolls your activities are putting on you yourself, your husband, and your marriage," blah, blah, blah,,,, <p>

an intelligent doctor would at least say something like that! especially with someone as stupid/uninformed as this dizzy woman.... ("I like the excitement of casual sex, with physically attractive people, some I like, others I don't like so much,,, but the act of kissing them, fucking them, it just gives me goosebumps,,, but to think my husband would be doing that with, for, another woman?,,,, I'm not sure if I like the idea!"............If THAT is not a totally stupid/dizzy person, what is the DEFINITION of stupidity and dizziness????)

keep it going and piss off the ass w/o a name!

"But Mark making love to some other woman--that gets me upset. Worried, I guess. Will he find someone prettier, or hotter--or just somebody with a younger, firmer body? I'm 35, not 25 any more.

"Or will there be someone sweet and loving who he just falls for? That's what really scares me."

Ah that's the point isn't it?

So it's okay for her but not him. When faced with this question, why is it that the ones having something extra suddenly become selfish when they ask their faithful partners to not be selfish?

I enjoy the story, I hope it's going in a good directino and there's a good resoultion to this.

He has to communicate. So far he has been flexible and we haven't really seen her be flexible, so it should be interesting!

"But Mark making love to some other woman--that gets me upset. Worried, I guess. Will he find someone prettier, or hotter--or just somebody with a younger, firmer body? I'm 35, not 25 any more.

"Or will there be someone sweet and loving who he just falls for? That's what really scares me."

Ah that's the point isn't it?

So it's okay for her but not him. When faced with this question, why is it that the ones having something extra suddenly become selfish when they ask their faithful partners to not be selfish?

I enjoy the story, I hope it's going in a good directino and there's a good resoultion to this.

It's also the distrubing lack of regard for her husband that this lifestyle as portrayed by this author, that has really made her actions very damaging.

She has gone from being discrete to actually bringins someone to his home, wearing a bikini that was meant ONLY for him, and also showing a gentleness that he thought was only reserved for him that has hurt him so much. That contempt is not quite recognized by her yet. Not sure if they will survive this, but she has to change her attitude if she really wants him back.

He has to communicate. So far he has been flexible and we haven't really seen her be flexible, so it should be interesting!

Reading a story by Ohio is always an experience, especially when he posts it in chapters. As readers, we put ourselves in the husband's, or wife's, place in the story. WE get angry, worried, even frightened at times. That simply indicates the story is well written. If all the characters behaved in what most would call "normal", they would never have married and this story would not be told. Enjoy the emotions this stirs up and appreciate that Ohio is one of the best story tellers around!

well written and like the tension. sometimes, the Drama gets overbearing, but i like it in this story. guess, it comes in w/ the plot. looking forward to the next chapter.

Way to go Ohio, looks like someone realizes what matters in their marriage. Now maybe hubby will grow some balls, so to speak. LOL

<p>"Leanne told me all about this with excited pleasure, but not without a certain defensiveness. She understood all too well what society thinks of a woman who behaves this way, even though a man who does the same thing is considered a "stud" or a "player"."</p>

<p>I always love seeing this in print. Its like a Drunk Driver trying to justify why they have been driving. Like the only ones who are against drinking are religious fanatics. If a man is married and is sleeping around on his wife, only other "Creepy" men are calling him a stud. The "decent" men are avoiding him and trying not to be lumped with him when (and they usually do) he gets caught. Decent men don't admire someone who walks on someone else's feelings. I'd also put it in the same category as women who think its ok to hit, or make fun of, men because "all" men have been beating on women for years and now they are just getting some pay back. It just generalities at its best when I see this. Its the same, one group trying to justify what they are doing by pointing to another group, all while claiming the world condones their actions because on one is trying to stop them.</p>

<p>Teenage boys (and one who never grow up) might be impressed but grown men walk away without looking back. That's why its a peeve. I know more guys who look down on married people sleeping around, than admire the men who do it. I think I can honestly say I no one guy who does, but he was one of the ones sleeping around.</p>

<p>But I liked that the character did admit to the unbridled selfishness that she displayed, where she was the only one getting the best of both worlds, so far on her part:</p>

<i><p>"What about the other option I mentioned? How would you feel if Mark said he wanted to have other partners too?"</p>

<p>She looked unhappy, but said, "I couldn't really say No, could I? What justification would I have? But I'll admit I don't want him to.</p>

<p>"I know that's unreasonable--why should I be able to screw around while he has to be faithful? And I certainly know that for me, sex and love are two entirely different things. I don't care in the least for the guys I do it with, beyond the pleasure of it. Some of them I like, some I don't even like very much. But there's never any chance I'll get attached to any of them.</p></i>

<p>That was pretty good development too me. But I guess by the end though they will be back together and he'll just keep denying that this point in his life ever happened. Well as long as you write it that way I guess I don't need to fee it should have worked out >=)</p>

As we all can see, Ohio Is a terrific writer and has plenty of insight about people and their behaviors. I don't think anyone can deny that the wife is really a selfish slut who at a subconscious level thinks she deserves only the best of all worlds and doesn't care who has to pay the piper. The husband really doesn't deserve too much sympathy because he went into this situation with his eyes wide open. Both of them didn't really make a commitment to this marriage when they took their marriage vows or this would never have happened. So now we have to wait for the master story-teller to do his magic and work this situation out so that all parties can win. Very few writers do this as well as our Ohio so please don't stop telling your tale. Thanks for sharing all your talents with us...

she remained monogamous for the two years she was married to Adam, her so boring husband who wasn't giving her the sex she craved and who wasn't interested in doing various things together that se liked. Yet with the man she claims to be so much in love, to be so compatible in and out of bed, she imposes that she can continue to see/fuck other men. Oh yes, she was devoted to him for the whole of 2 months. Talking of a contradiction. I agree with others that it has always been about her and her alone, what makes her a selfish woman who's not equally giving what she receives out of this relationship. Now, faced with the possible break-up of their marriage, fearing that she might loose her husband to another woman, she still hesitates when asked if she could give up other men and says not to want him meeting other women... I think she hasn't yet fully understood. What will her "determination" make her do to convince him that she has changed, that there's no longer any need for their arrangement. I too believe that trust will be the big issue in this respect, cause she was so good at hiding her fucking for so long. He will allways wonder. I'm looking forward to Ohio's solution to undo the knot in their rope but history tell's us Alexander just cut the rope. **** The question where exactly she has been picking up her lovers has not really been answered. At random places ? Apparently the guy who spilled coffee on her skirt she met in a Starbucks diner, Theo her latest lover with whom Mark caught her was a waiter in a diner where she was with her friends. How could she have kept her identity from him ? She met him five times some years ago. If he didn't know her identity, all he had to do was ask her friends when they came back there. They supposedly didn't know about her whoring so ther wouldn't have been any reason to withhold this information giben the work she was doing. Then she runs into him at her office. Not difficult for Theo to trace her back there either. Another contradiction that shows the flaws in her statements. How about the many others? What about the guy she took home once before ? As for this cute waitress that Mark just met, she wouldn't by any chance be the replacement for Leanne's latest lover who went away ? She might even have heard from Theo or collegues about Leanne's fucking with just anybody and sees her chance to come on to a good looking guy who could give her a good life. Guess, we'll just have to wait and see. G.Belgium

Thought provoking,, well written and very well told. Thanks to ohio for writing another terrific story.

please quit writing ohio, this story is just a waste. god you suck

You better have the husband redeem himself by getting lots of strange pussy while the wife gets none. Then he beats her up bad and shits on her face. Thanks very much!!!!

A turn off way below the cuck humiliation meter. In a typical marital consequence story that mirrors life to some degree there is 1 flawed selfish idiot. That I can stomach and relate to.<P>

Here ohio has gone over the edge for what some call a non-typical story. <P>

Cmon, it isn't non-typical here - but it is non-typical for a previously respected talented writer to give his words, time and talent to a male humiliation story where he doesn't do anything but watch or be a man in a sordid excuse for a marriage from the get wimp go.<P>

He can't respect himself nor hasn't since exchanging rings but he stupidly doesn't seem to understand that she totally doesn't respect him. She has always selfishly wanted her warm bedmate hunk and an ever changing rotissiary smorgasbord of different cocks whenever she can cuck him.<P>

This is a wobbly humiliation but prettily worded just plane ohio fucking up his portfolio story.<P>

Anyone one can do this and has but why you writer.

Every marriage is different. What works for one does not necessarily work for another. However, successful, long-term happy marriages all have common factors: love, honesty, loyalty and fidelity. Otherwise, marriages that last through the breakage of one of the four elements become only existences. Mark was correct when he stated himself just another fuckbuddy, albeit in the number one position. What does being number one get him? Not a whole lot. He doesn't even get the benefit of some strange like any of the others are able because he honors his vows. Technical issue here: condoms are NOT 100% fullproof against STDs. If nothing else is taken into consideration, that should be. Another issue is just the gross factor. Only complete sluts (men and women) wouldn't care about following someone else or get a kick out of subjecting another to seconds regardless of leavings. Yeah, this a story. A damned well written one as usual for OHIO. I recommend ditching the slut. The avoidance factor only goes so far. It does not prevent knowledge of a main issue, only the ability to ignore some points.

So far, so good, I'm somewhat concerned that Mark will wimp out; Leanne had at least tacit permission, but what she did that day was outside the bounds of their apparent agreement, so there needs to be consequences before the marriage could be saved (at least in my opinion) if that's where the story denouement is going. You know how much I like your work, so however, you end it, you writing is so good, I'm sure I'll be - if not happy - at least not pissed off by another wimp husband.

have to ask myself: how come that in such stories the fantasy turns that women want to take the right to have what they want; everything. and in the end looking for the motivation the reason given is curiosity but the real reason is lack of confidence. they have to prove themselves that they still got it. why is even in fantasy that big gap? why not once be honest? the writing itself is very good.

I hope you ignore the idiots who try to put down the stories that are told because they are jealous or have no talent themselves so they berate others. I love this story, getting into the lives of others, whether made up or not. You are displaying separate personalities and that makes your stories soooooo goooood!

I hope there are quite a few chapters to go in this series as you can do a lot of things with it, whether their marriage is save or not, I hope it does get saved. You can make this run a long time whether they open up their marriage or he decides she shouldn't show as much passion with other men, or let there be a little exhibitionism, or whatever happens.

Thanks for your talents

I am enjoying your story immensely. I can't help but hope that Leanne will come to her senses and Mark too for that matter. Thank you for writing.

Love is never enough to conquer all. The wife claims she loves her husband and can't live without him. Yes she can, he may be good in bed, he may be gentle but firm, She might think he's not wimp but he is, the problem is she is confusing lust with love and vice, versa she claims she might give up having her fix of cocks, but given her history

It's unlikely. Any way great writing as always and you are making all of us think about the story wheather we like it or not. I really cant see this going any way but down for this marriage. And even though I am a romantic fool even I would not know how to restart this marriage.

<p>I gave up on the story within a couple of minutes.

<p>There are very talented readers who can read and enjoy any story. I am not one of them. Unless the story is pretty good, I cannot enjoy it. A major problem of this story from my point of view is that it is about a couple of lunatics nobody cares what happens to them. If you do not care what happens to the heroes, there is no point in reading the story.

<p>The story should theoretically still be the same if it were told from the point of view of the therapist, the wimp or the slut, assuming they all know the relevant details. If it was told from the wimp's point of view, you would see the readers saying wimp shit this, wimp shat that. If it were told from the slut's point of view, they would say cheating whore this, cheating whore that. The author escaped that by telling it from the therapist's point of view (in addition to having easy access to the details, although with no guarantee of its accuracy). Now there is some respect to the story but not from me. The most they can say is stupid therapist, but they would be too busy berating the wimp and slut.

<p>While the story has those major problems, it is still an exercise for the author to see if he can dig himself out of a hole so deep he can hear footsteps on the other side of earth. I hate it when a story is seemingly designed for the sole purpose being a showoff exercise for the author. From experience, anybody can dig a hole through earth, but virtually nobody has ever been able to dig him/herself out. You have to be reasonable. If that kills the story, find another one. Life is full of permutations and combinations. Instead of reviving a dead man, try to cure a living one.

I would have never thought that so many people have never realized that with the thousands of stories in the "Loving Wives" catagory, to write anything new, a writer has to kind of go over the top on some things in his story. Without the selfishness of Leeanne, and the foolish, desperate love of Mark, this would have been a repeat of dozens of other stories in this catagory. It has to bring real pressure to bear on the writers to come up with something new, when the main thrust of every story has to be the woman cheating on the man. For my money, ya done good!!

I guess everyone has an ending they would like to see, as do I, and I have only seen one other story with this in it. The husband makes up a fictitious afair of his own, to show his mate just how hurtful it is to the offended party. This can be milked to any degree desirable, causing as much pain and guilt, as deemed necessary, with any result that you want to end up with.

Give us more stories. I'm tired of re-reading stories over, and over because there aren't any new ones out there.

When I saw Ohio had another submission I really got excited because one of the best writers on this site just issued a new story. As usual, it is well written, I am still reading but I really have trouble relating to a guy who marry's a woman who, up front, says she will not be faithful. There are a lot of great loving and faithful women out there who are sexy as heck and beautiful so why settle for one that isn't all yours. I just can't believe there are men like that or for that matter women. The bottom line here is that, because Ohio is writing it, I will read it and maybe get surprised but sheez I really have a problem with the scenario here.

I might add that my blood pressure will probably still go up a few points when I see Ohio has a new submission ---since I often read and re-read his other works. Okay Ohio take me down a different path now and then but I want to at least stay in the same world that I know where people have reasonable expectations and act as honorably as possible to the situations they find themselves in. Thanks for the past pleasures and I am still hoping for redemption on this one.

believing the woman had permission to be an adulterous slut but was so in love and lust with him she would not do it. It is the basis of dont tell, I can avoid knowing she is being a slut and coming home to me after she has given herself to perhaps a stranger. As long as he didnt know, the marriage was secure. Lots of women cheat on their marriages and the marriages go along fine since the husband never knows. Now there is no question, the husband knows she fucks around, even in her own home, and those special things he thought she gave to him, he now knows she gives freely to other men. He did not want an unfaithful girlfriend, fiance, or wife, now he knows for a fact he has one, and he is no more special than any guy she meets on the street. The only difference is he houses her and serves as her security blanket. Let us just for a minute assume she promises her husband she will never cheat again and she doesnt. Now put yourself in the husbands brain. Before he thought she might cheat but didnt know she did and he was alright. Then he found out she was cheating even in his home. Even tho she promises to never cheat again. Can he, should he, will he ever believe her? If he had an IQ of 50 and was a trusting person maybe so. If he is real, he cant and wont, he can never trust her again, never. What has not been addressed in the story and was brought up by one critiquer, condoms are not totally effective for STD prevention and if oral or anal sex is done without them there is no protection. Has she been totally tested and checked out and has she done the one month, six month, and year test? Fear of disease, since she is fucking virtual strangers, is a major consideration and would make me impotent to begin with. I see no hope for this marriage even if the wife matures and grows up. She is one of those special ladies that needs to move to Neveda and practice a trade that allows her the freedom to do what she does best. Dont force a reconciliation where we all know six months later she will betray him and herself again.

I suggest that Tom ask Leanne to write a want ad for a replacement husband who would accept her condition of allowing her outside activities to continue. She might then see the folly of her position. Tom would ask her to do this to face the possibility that her husband will do the logical thing and divorce her now that he no longer can ignore her infidelity.

I am very curious why a therapist wouldn’t ask Leanne about why she thinks what she has with Mark is real love as she cannot really commit to him. Leanne has not been challenged to even try to find why she cannot commit to one person. It would go beyond just sex, as this is a condition she lives in all her life. How does she say she loves and yet respects a man who would knowingly yet covertly accept being a submissive? Does she really acknowledge she is the master and he the submissive? Does she see she must dominate him and put him back in her control? He doesn’t have the persona to really push her away, he is waiting to be dominated and controlled. Let’s face it, Mark is rebelling against what he sees as others may find out he is a submissive and his wife is completely giving all of herself to others. He will never be able to be a man in control as he is still too scared to commit to an average relationship. Leanne suits this man as long as she lets him think he is strong but must force him to submit to get back on the lifestyle they had made. He is just waiting for her to show him he is wrong and she just loves him, he needs this lie to go back to being his submissive self.<P>Wonderful story line of two people who don’t have a clue who they are and a therapist who is not asking either to look into their own personalities for answers. It is a story of a therapist listening and not leading anyone to any understanding. The therapist is just a story narrator in this piece.<P>Thanks for the different entertainment. <P>PT

Mark IS a wimp! Now matter how much she tries to deny it. Looking forward to Mark dumping her ass.

The childish ramblings of the wife are based on the assumption that physical intimacy and love could be clearly separated or that one can decide how she is going to react emotionally ahead of time. Never happens.

People who are hooked on multiple sexual partners are emotionally incapable of the kind of life long intimate love she claims to have. The two don't go together - not because of morals but because of human psychology.

"It scares me a little, because ... casual sex has always been a big part of my life." Wow...possibly the most shallow and empty sentence I've read this month. Sex is a pretty good chunk of everybodys' life, but casual sex with whatever asshole is handy instead of making love to the man she supposedly loves above all others is pretty much beneath contempt. Haven't made my way to the end of the series yet, but I already suspect a reconcilliation...it's the husbands fault, of course, that he can't get over her fucking the phone book (shit.) The one thing I do know is that the hubby would be much better off with a woman who knows the definition of fidelity, and that totally rules out the "loving wife."

She's a slut; he is a wimp. They deserve to make each other miserable for the rest of their lives... The End.

and he is a weak submissive. IF they are going to stay together, a good psychologist with the right training - not this incompetent - would recognize this and offer two choices. They each need to change: she has to love him enough to stop letting her whoremones control her and he needs to buile his self-esteem and say love only me and be with only me and respect me. Or the relationship will continue to fall apart. No reputable counselor would help them stay together without that: They need to be equal, loving partners where each can respect the other. This counselor is not going in that direction; he seems to be driving them along the course they began. He would loose his liscense in the real world.

interesting the comments .. genghis,belgium and harry make a good point on their comments,as for marrying someone that states on the outset of the relationship that she needs and will have others is so retarded that no comment is needed . there is and was no equality in the relationship here .no pussy is worth the pain and humiliation even if it is"pure gold and sings the national anthem" .. however without a cheating wife there would be no story..i still dont know why this is the "loving wives" theme on here and not the "wimp and kuckoed husband" one is kind of beyond me...lol. well i will read the rest of the story .. B.N.

"It was too soon for me to be very hopeful—but I was beginning to think that maybe she and Mark had a chance."

REALLY?!

what is that assessemnt based on?

the wife was asked if she could give up fucking other mne to save her marriage. This is something after all that the wife CLAIMS is vitally important to her!

This is how she responded " I -- I think so."

Even the therapist was stunned by this and he tells her

".....If Mark asks that of you, you need to be ready to agree on the spot--to tell him that he is more important to you than the other men, that you are choosing him over them.

"Because if he sees you hesitate, it may only worsen what he's already feeling.".

So WHY then does the therapist then conclude they have a chance when the wife is STILL uncertain IF she will stop fucking other men ??

I hate all of these people, including the fag who posted it. This woman is just a whore. No one could reasonably claim to love a partner, and yet enjoy cheating, knowing they were risking destroying their marriage every time. Not even if they did force their partner into tacitly agreeing to an "open" marriage through emotional backmail. And condoms break or leak, or some guys slip the condom off without the woman realizing it, becasue they prefer bareback sex. Plus there are diseases that can be transmitted even if a condom is used, such as hepatitis. The woman described in this story is just scum, as would a man who acted similarly be. There is no double standard.

Divorce the slut bitch and be done done with the whole situation. What is the husband waiting for? wimp!

The story is taking shape now. Leanne is a slut, tried and true. Mark is a normal guy who thought when he married Leanne it would be a normal marriage. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

She's a cheating slut whore cunt wife who wants everything and her husband is now insecure because she made him feel that way.

I still reserve my conclusion until I read further but the obvious thing to do is divorce the bitch. We'll see...

the fat cock lustily smoked, buggered by the meaty one, betrayed!

queer eye for the cuckeye?

This woman is an utter complete slut! Been one since highschool...... Mark needs to man up & dump the whore! I don't understand why they're in marriage counseling ; she's not going to give up all of the many different cocks that the world has to offer, so what exactly is the point of going through the mirage? I don't understand why it's ok for her to spread'em for other guys but the thought of mark sleeping around pisses her off...their marriage isn't even an open one because she's the only one fucking around... I think her bringing her fuck-toys in their home to fuck them shows a total lack of respect, respect for him, respect for their marriage & respect for their home ! The home should've been off limits , why didn't she just go to a ho-tel? Isn't that where all whores & sluts go when they wanna fuck other people who isn't their spouse? She can say she loves her husband all she wants but I don't really believe that. She doesn't give a damn about him or she would've given her extracurricular activities up... Why did she accept his marriage proposal knowing she never intended to stop slutting around? She should've just told him that she can't marry him. But he brought this on himself, he willingly married the towns whore what exactly was he expecting? Maybe he was hoping if he loved her enough she wouldn't feel the need to go out ho-hopping.. She's a born slut no man is going to be able to cure her of her sluttish ways... Dump the tramp & move on

the "doc" is telling her what Mark wants to hear to get the marriage working. He shoud keep his fucking mouth shut.

Why would you want to be win someone that weak when it comes to self control? I mean will she get mad and off him one day because she lacks self control?

so the character asked a question - what did i do wrong? Well - Duh - YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DISCRETE AND YOU WERE FUCKING MEN IN YOUR GOD DAMN FUCKING HOME AND WERE SO BUSY AT IT YOU MISSED THE CALL SAYING YOUR HUSBAND WAS ON HIS WAY HOME YOU STUPID CUNT! she was also making love and doing the same guy more than once, establishing a second relationship contrary to her alleged devotion to her husband. oh, she was not devoted to him. why did this whroe get married? she wanted to be with mark forever, but not really, she needed new strange cocks and maybe she could be a real whore and bring home an std or aids. hey she is fair she wanted to fuck her husband right after he caught her fucking someone else - the cunt gets off on giving hubby sloppy seconds. but hey, she asks what did she do wrong? no i don't believe the character was truthful about always using a rubber - she has already proved herself to be a lying wheating cum dump. but it is just so sweet that she likes to fuck mark after she does some strange cock - that is just so special - that makes her the perfect wife and woman. hell she only wore something special for her husband with a prior fuck buddy and all she wants is for it to be back the way it was before, with her fucking anyone and everyone with a cock and mark just accepting and pretending it did not happen. damn mark he wond let the whore reassure him and tell him how much she really does love him but still needs some strange cock. god these are horrible characters and the shrink is an idiot!

I think the counselor character is brilliant. While I can't understand her behavior, I certainly understand her actions. I believe she really loves her husband and was trying to minimize the impact of her behavior. It seems a bit far fetched, but very intriguing. Well done. Five stars.

I think a point some of the critics are overlooking is that the author (and counselor) Is trying to uncover her stupidity. This arrangement was always doomed for failure. No matter how honest she was with her husband before marriage, no matter how hard he tried to avoid it, it could not go on forever. No one is perfect. We are all flawed and all screw up. She could not keep this perfect little world together forever. Additionally, I think we will find that the whole agreement stems from a serious flaw in her own Psyche. This counselor knows what he is doing and is bringing her to the point of realization.

You mean his stupidity.

He's a fucking retard.

how could she ever convince her husband its his child. There is no way in hell short of DNA testing. And in the mean time the rift would be even greater than it is now. And how could she keep her whoring up when she was raising a child. Nope not gonna fly.

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"Tell me, Tom! Tell me, please: what did I do that was wrong? We had an agreement, and no one can say that I didn't keep my side of the bargain. I was totally careful, totally discreet."

Obviously not!

I'm surprised that the counselor hasn't called her on the loving kisses for her "fuck buddy"!

She broke her own rules, so now you have to divorce her.even if she says she will give up others, she will get the itch and start again being every guys slut. You could never ever trust her. Live with that?

Pray tell; what's discreet about fucking someone in the open air of your own back yard? If that's what you call discreet, I'd HATE to see "indiscreet."

My guess is that your "indiscreet" would consist of you fucking one of your husband's coworkers on his office work desk during work hours, right in front of him while the office door is open, and then, to add insult to injury, you'd do it without a condom and then shout to anyone near, "Who's next?"?

Fucking someone else in the marital home is THE DEFINITION of indiscreet.

Discreet, my ass!

She wants to fuck other guys but doesn't want hubby fuck other women. She's WORST than a whore! But, of course, she LOVES him! BULLSHIT!

I really hate marriage counseling stories. I'm done with this author.

They counselor is a total ass 1*

The counselor is not an ass the author is.

If he was that important to her she would have quit when she decided to marry him. You write your own stories. They're yours. I just don't feel compelled by any of your characters. You're going to put these people back together and act as though all is well, all is forgotten , when in reality they would both be miserable. He should have said later when he found out the only thing she was faithful to was her pussy.

I gave you a 5 Ohio

I am not a "burn the bitch" supporter but find it difficult to read a story where not one of the characters is the least bit admirable. The counselor is just a waste of space as are the husband and wife, one a wimp the other a slut. None of them seem to understand the concepts of morality, fidelity, loyalty or the impact of betrayal. She betrayed and lied to Mark by omission before they were married and yet the counselor makes no mention of this or the hurtful effect it would have on Mark. In the counselor's world morality does not seem exist, sexual freedom is more important and therefore how can the reader take him or the story seriously.

Hopefully the story will develop and introduce a moral imperative otherwise it will just be a waste of everyone's time to read, as what will be the point to live in the sleazy world that they seem to portray.

This has plenty of insight and well developed dialogue. Perhaps commentators should distinguish between making a judgement (based on their own beliefs etc) on the people in the plot and on the story-telling ability of this very able writer. Well, prostitutes have boy-friends don't they?

As far as the story is concerned, my father had an irritating habit of saying:"The only place you can start from is here!" Like Mark Twain, I find that the older I get the wiser my father seems to have become. Mark in this story may well have done better not to have gone for her extraordinary proposal, but, as HDK said, he finds himself in love with her and the question is what on earth he can do about it. As always I am intrigued as to the personality of the female who can love a man -- she and others in similar plots insist this is so -- while wanting sex with others. At least the story isn't 100% about dick-size which is so often the case on this site.

Excellently written story about flawed people. The author gets us inside each of their psyches very well. Love them or hate them, the reason you are getting those emotions is due to how well the story is told.

you know the definition of slut is doing sexual things outside the social norm they already both agreed to that so that makes her a slut and denying it is like saying a spoon is a fork or a dog a cat it maby isnt realy that flatering of a label but its what it is and to be honest i dont care about it but what i do care about is truth and that is she is a slut

theres a reason the double standard exists and its because an average looking woman will never hurt for sex. Even ugly women can get sex more easily then an ugly man its just how men and women are wired i guess in that guys will have sex with an okay looking woman but for a woman she has to be attracted to him and be in the right mood.

If this is how marriage counselors deal with failing marriages, I am positive that they are very inadequate. I now know I will NEVER seek help from a marriage counselor. He has information from both the husband and wife that really could help. But he won't pass the information along. I give him an 'F' as a marriage counselor. Another point: How many time has Leanne boasted that she has gone to extremes to not hurt Mark? But yet on the day she is expecting Mark to return TO THEIR HOME from Milwaukee, she brings her lover Theo TO THEIR HOME. Then she leaves her cell phone inside the house where she can't hear either phone? She wanted to get caught. She wasn't 'having sex' with Theo. She was making love...just exactly like, with absolutely NO DIFFERENCE than she would with Mark. Mark , at this point has been replaced by Theo.

Not so much who she is now, but how well she hid it long ago, and let him believe they were exclusive.

Of course "liar" and "cheater" are useful terms as well. It's not so much she was having sex with others, it's the "covering it up" that makes her dishonest.

Of course, he was a soulless pussy as well. If her morals and yours are 180 degrees apart, ain't no pussy worth it.

This is such an unusual storyline, and yet it is truly done well.

But an honest one for the most part. I don't have a problem with sluts that are honest.

I wouldn't even sleep with a slut but friends are ok.

She is also a stupid hypocrite slut for not wanting Mark to fuck other women.

Her hypocrisy is actually what I find disgusting about her.

I enjoyed chapter 1 and would have been happy if it ended there. I'm not sure if I like where this is going. I don't see her changing permanently. I will read on.

She should not be married. What she is doing is fine for a single girl but pretty much guaranteed to implode any marriage regardless of whether the guy thinks he can handle it. She spent years feeding her addiction to a very promiscuous lifestyle and now she can't give it up. For her to think she can have that and her marriage too is selfish delusion.

Have to agree with below... she should NEVER have married anyone!!! Even if she changes now, how could anyone be assured that she could EVER be faithful to one man??? Dump the slut!!! It's the appropriate term for her!!!

I will no longer read this site. Just to many wimp stories.

SCREW UP! Well, we can all admit that she is an extremely selfish woman. Now we can add IDIOT to the description. Who in their right mind would ever bring their "lover" home. Even in real life it is too easy for something like what happened with her husband finishing early and show up at the "house" earlier than expected. The only "right" thing she did was to not take him into their marriage bed. It does look as though she is going to get a chance to feel what it is like for the shoe to be on the other foot.

"I don't usually bring men back to the house--honest!".

"I'd gone home to shower and change into a real skimpy thong bikini, one I only wear for Mark when nobody else is around.".

" he's miserable and he can't get it up anymore!"

1/ bringing her bulls into the marital home

2/wearing things meant for her husband only

3/ why is it "his" job to get an erection? is it her job to get wet? that thinking would make for very poor sex.

Definition of "whore"--Leanne!

Leanne isn't special. She is just an extremely self centered and selfish cunt.

So Mark wouldn't enjoy variety and fucking around on her.

She is a little too precious in her own estimation.

What did you do that was wrong? You had sex OUTSIDE! I don't care how private it is. You couldn't hear the phone because you were outside? Where was your cell phone. And what's with the "loving" for something that's supposed to just be a physical release?

"The whole time I'd been with Bradley I had fantasies about lots of different guys, and this was my chance." - It's perfectly all right to fantasize about lots of guys, it's even when you're single to act on it, in fact, THAT'S the time to do it! But then you GROW-UP and mature, and settle down with the person you love.

"But I love men--and I love cocks." - So don't most women, but they're able to restrict themselves to one!

She mentions men and boobs, and yes, most men lust over boobs, or butts or women in general, but despite the therapist's claim that promiscuous men are praised as studs, men in committed relationships are expected to "keep it in their pants" just as much as women are expected to keep their legs closed!

She talks about "new" guys, but the guy that Mark obviously wasn't "new!"

"I'd endured a life of monogamy for nearly two years with Adam and it nearly drove me crazy!" - But Adam wasn't a great lover and otherwise as compatible as Mark is.

Giving him sloppy seconds (even if not TECHNICALLY sloppy due to the condoms) excites her! Doesn't she realize that's one of the crimes of cuckoldry?

"And I can't tell her" - Why not? Why can't he tell her it was the loving gestures that upset Mark?

It's not just be ready with the answer, but be 1000% positive that she can do it! If she says she'll stop seeing other men, and he comes back, and a year from now she slips and gets caught, they're done!

to sociopathic nymphs, TK U MLJ LV NV

pathetic cuck shit.

She assured him should would be the epitome of discreet.

Screwing a guy in their home, in the back yard in public view is not the least bit discreet.

Not to mention lover parking car in their driveway...the guy entering house with her, exitting hours later in full view of neighbors.

True Mark was foolish to agree to arrangement, but it is given she brought other lovers into their house and bed.

That is intentional humiliation and epitome of disrespect.

If Mark is little boy, she is selfish, self-centered, spoiled little girl.

I have a friend who was married and who traveled a lot, for weeks at a time and both agreed they could have some on the side so long as it was totally discreet. However like in the story, bringing a strange man to your house, having him park in your driveway is not, in any way, discreet. Broke my friends marriage up when a neighbor commented.

You can argue all you want that he should never have agreed to marry her or talk about conditions on her behavior etc but bringing another guy to your house is not discreet and that’s without getting into disrespect of that action.

Hard one to pull off but same criticisms as sbrooks103x.

I think the therapist is too soft on both of them. What they both need is someone to stop the pussy footing around. They are both to blame for the situation, so why just stay so neutral? Tom has to be much stronger and tell them how it is.

the fact in her worldview she cannot fully commit to a relationship, including sexual fidelity, which is really a basic fidelity and without such the marriage is built on quicksand. Again, I go back to why would Mark agree to marry such a woman, when literally the vast majority of woman would gladly embrace fidelity over variety?

So she gets to behave like a whore, fucking legions of guys, but he has to stay faithful?!

Lol. No.

Divorce this deranged slut asap!

She knows he is unhappy with the situation but to do it at their house is/was just stupid. It shows she has no respect for her husband except what she wants. He should not have married her, but then love is a fool.

The wife who SUPPOSEDLY loves her husband.

. Knows how devastated and crushed he is... and is SUPPOSEDLY trying to save her marriage Actually says THIS-

It just seems like a really bad idea to ... to be with anyone else while things are so up in the air with Mark."

Game over