All Comments on 'When We Were Married Ch. 03D'

A formerly very good story now just drones on and on.

Doug, you gonna make it cum sooooooooooo baddddddddd! Please, please, gawd, no more! <p>

That's Debbie, the assistant professor' contribution to the author's dialogues from about 50 pages ago. Thta's more or less all she every said; that is, other than calling Bill about twice a week to tell him she's no longer in love with him and why he hasn't moved on. <p>

Bill, on the other hand, wherever he goes: "I shall never love again, or as much; please, forgive me, I am no Shakespear but an over-worked assistant DA... Anyway, I shall never love again, or love as much... as I have loved and still continue to love Debbie, whom I have loved for 18 years, and still love now, as you suck my dick so loving... I love her DESPITE the fact that I know she's likely fucking a YOUNG stud with a cock twice as long and big as mine ON MY BED, our marriage bed, in my home, former home, with my two teenage kids downstairs.. <p>

And she's probably screaming, loud and long, "Oh, God, Doug, you're making me orgasm again, for the 12th times. You ARE so bad; I feel so guilty, being given so many orgasms like you have, something I never truly experienced with my short, balding, over-worked soon-to-be ex husband, Bill, whom fought against you like a WIMP the night he came to our university gathering." <p>

Hi, dear readers: <p>

My name is William Maitland. I'm an Assistant State Attorney in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm the poster child for workaholics, having thrown away one of the hottest women in Jacksonville and my two children and a 20 year relationship because I couldn't maintain a life apart from my job as the top working prosecutor in Jacksonville <p>

Three months ago I had a wife. In another month or so I won't. <p>

I am so sad, so angry, so obsessed with Debbie.... a woman who's in a LEAGUE I never could belong.... I think of and about her so much, even though the divorce is about to be finalized... I sometimes can't sleep, can't think, can't eat, cant do shit worth any thing these days... I can't even focus on my psychiatrist, when he's talking to me, that's how bad it's become! <p>

I am totally obsessed, depressed, and angry THINKING and THINKING how Debbie, the woman who use to be my supposedly loving wife of 18 years... how she LIKELY fucking a YOUNG STUD 15 years my junior, who's 6'5", pure muscles, with a cock almost twice a long as mine and 1.5 times the circumference... I'm sure Debbie is just sucking and gagging on it, just to prove she truly in a league of her own, a league I NEVER BELONG in, with her.

I may be thousands of miles away, on a luxury cruise, fucking another beautiful women --- married and in the SAME prohibitive LEAGUE Debbie belongs --- but all I think about is Debbie. I am a mess! <p>

As I said, I am no Bard, but I know I shall never love again, or as deeply, 'cuz I don't think I can go on like this; or suffer like this again, with another woman! <p>

Dear Good Author, why don't you, seriously, WRITE SOMETHING more interesting! This is pure crap! <p>

Of course, by the end of THIS story of yours, you'd make Bill married to another loving woman,,, and then live a good life until his 60s and then have him suffer a catastrophic heart attack and the last words out of his mouth would be: <p>

Oh, my beloved Debbie, I never loved anyone as much, or deeply, as I did --- as I DO --- you, even now, with my last breath, literally! <p>

LOL

love the evolving characters. don't mind the previous anonymous comment...probably a premature ejaculator who doesn't get foreplay:)

Nope, its a good story and I like the development of the characters. Looking forward to the next chapter.

Excellent episode!

I really like the character interactions in this story. Like between Debbie and Lew, Bill and Dan, and of course Bill and Debbie. Its part of the reason I keep coming back to read your story. Keep up the good work!

DQS I liked this part better than most and they are all excellent. Life coming full circle, life healing, and truth starting to come out. Excellent!

Continues to be a great and compelling story. I look forward to every chapter and am still re-reading old chapters. Keep up the great work!

sorry for the first two idiots posting bull about this story...might be jealous wannabe's?...anyway, was eagerly looking forward to this chapter and for sure, it DID NOT dissapoint! just loved everything about it and can't wait for the next installment....top 3 stories EVER on this site!! BRAVO!

OH, you stuck this one, best chapter so far. I loved it!

Really loving this story...keep it coming :)

Only criticism i can come up with is the waiting between the episodes....a week man....a whole week :P

Seriously tho...you take your time and get it right :)

Thanks for writing a compelling novel (story). I look forward to the story and comments each day.

Another fantastic chapter. The development of the characters is great. I didn't get to comment on Chapter 03C because I didn't get to read it until today. Wonderful 2 chapters in one day. Been on vacatiuon and out of touch. No wireless, no computer, no landline, no tv, nothing. We've been on vacation rafting down the Colorado River through the Grand Canyon. Talk about awesome Wow.

Now about the story. Ignore the MORONS that don't like it. If they don't like it why do the read it? Personally I think you're doing a helluva job so far writing about real life. The characters seem very realistic. The emotions you go through in a divorce can be terribly depressing especially if you really loved the person. The valleys are very deep. For a man it does in fact make you question your manhood at times. I quess you have to experience it to really understand. I've been there so I do understand.

Bill is now finally starting to rediscover himself and come out of the deep depression he's been in. Debbie on the other hand is just now beginning to realize how badly she has screwed up. Perhaps with Bill but definitely with her kids. It will be interesting to see how she fairs.

Good lord what are the odds of meeting the wife of a prosecutor that you worked with in France and you're a prosecutor in the U. S. on a French cruise ship that she's a cruise director on? I remember once I met a cousin on vacation up in Jasper, Alberta, Canada standing in line waiting for a tram to go up Whistler Mt. for breakfast at the restaurant on top. They lived in Ohio and we lived in California. What are the odds of that? Shit happens.

Well at least you've made the people happy that wanted to see BIll get layed.

The question is how many more times is he going to get laid before the cruise is over. Poor Debbie is going to have to find somebody new to fuck. She threw the asshole Doug out. Bet he turns up again though.

Keep up the good work DQS1. Eagerly looking forward to the next chapter.

This is quite a story. I really appreciate the fact that you taken the time to develop the characters as you have done.

Boyd

Totally believeable, massively enjoyable. I'm Already looking forward to the next installment.

Bill is slowly coming up from the depths of despair - hopefully to be a better and more rounded man.

Now Debbie is also going to have to face the reality of what she did. Hopefully she will eventually have an ephiphany of her own.

It's your story, you can take it wherever you like, but personally I hope you don't have Bill & Debbie getting back together - it would seem such a cop-out.

To the poster that complained about the lack of dialog for Debbie - don't you get that this is Bill's story? We get to find out as much about Debbie's life (and indeed the kids lives and the other character's lives) as is necessary to inform our understanding of Bill's experiences. In the case of this installment, I confidently predict what we have learnt about Debbie's life will matter for Bill in the future.

Sure the plot and characterisation here is rich enough that there is probably a "Debbie" story here too... one in which Bill's experiences would be represented as minimally as Debbie's are in this version.

But DQS is already producing a mammoth effort on our behalf (sincere thanks for that) - and you're having a pop because its not twice as much? Sheesh! Some folks don't know when they are well off! Maybe you should produce your own story from a wife's point-of-view if you've got your own ideas about how characters should behave.

P.S. Just wanted to make it clear I mean you should write *completely* your own story - Not steal the Debbie character as imagined by DQS.

Now he's as bad as she is. So, you can have your forced reconciliation. No need to read any more psychobabble.

all I can see is that throughout the whole story you have made Bill out to be an absolute fool. Every chapter in the story shows that. Will you as an author ever wake him up? If he don't wake up soon, I will quit reading.

great story and i hope they get together.

Bill gets laid and the wife's decisions come to harm the children. I can't wait to see Bill fuck Doug up for tempting his daughter. And what will BJ do? Next chapter soon please!

The Opening scene is is soooo unbelieveably awfull .. so mind numblingly bad its like something Britease Slipriff or JBPB wrote.

I think I am going to throw up... god this is soooooo bad.

where you like.... DRUNK when you wrote this?

Better than the last 3 postings, which were mostly buildup without payoff or repetitive. You pivoted the story nicely and the characters are taking action while moving the plot forward.

I love this series so much. I was depressed, genuinely depressed, for several days after reading the first chapter. I can't wait to see where you take this story.

and Bill finally got laid! Yay! love this series. thanks.

And I, along with countless others, will be along for the rest of the ride, no matter how long it takes!

But I do have an awful lot of trouble with Bill's repeated hesitations about having sex with Aline. For Christ's sakes, he and she both know her husband cheats; she and the husband are away from one another for months at a time; for all Bill knows, they have an explicitly open marriage.

Above all, it's up to HER--if she wants to go to bed with Bill, he should get over being such a fucking boy scout and get with it. (As he eventually does, but with far too much angst.)

Thanks--ohio

Great story line! Nearly flawless prose! More turns and twists than a roller-coaster; and just as entertaining! Looking impatiently for the next installment.

H-

Great chapter - primarily because your wrapped up so many loose ends so succinctly. Steady on - damn the faint of praise - and so on and so forth.

Have been waiting impatently through each post. It is absolutely worth it, though. Thanks again.

and he finally becomes the man we knew he could be. Lots more to do with this one and I will be watching for the new chapters. I think you just made a man feel like a man again and the cheating wife gets a taste of real life. Love it

It is ironic that Numerous ANONYMOUS posters will says How great this chapter is but never explain WHY they think so... but if you post a negative comment ... DONT post anonymously and give a detailed explanation ... you are viewed as being a Troll...

Sorry but as I read this a second time I have to come the conclusion that this chapter makes no sense at all.

This is clearly leading up to a some sort of reconciliation... hopefully NOT forced one... but I fear for the worse. Doug is now Gone and BILL has gotten laid and has been re-born.

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Only seeing her daughter act like a whore like she -- debbie -- has been has it finally reached her non existant Brain the cost of her actions.

Only now does Debbie realize that she has NO moral standing at all to tell her daughter how to behave /act.

yet when confronted with this by Kellys's strong words Debbie is STILL blaming Bill.

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SECOND ... the Aline thing. It is really bad. The problem is in the previous chapter YOU made it clear that Bill is totally not up to having any sort of sustainable relationship. He is not ready emotionally and he is not ready mentally.

Especially given how Aline Lied to him and betrayed him in the previous chapter then shit on him... as if it is is HIS fault. At the end of last chapter and in the beginning fo this one... the similarities in her behavior and Debbie's is EXACT.

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THIRD In this chapter Aline admits and re-confirms what we already knew from the last chapter : that she knew who Bill was and what his story was BEFORE the scene where he told Aline his life / marriage story.

Therefore her entire reaction at the end of the previous chapter and in the beginning of this chapter is even harder to get past.

her remarks FUCK YOU are even more hurtful.... and exceptionally nasty meaning and cruel.

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FOURTH the way the author portrayed Bill has made him an straight somewhat narrow mind very principled man. IF we assume that over the last several months bill has been either depressed or out of whack by the chain events and the collapse of his marriage.... The fact that Bill seems to be getting his core and SELF back would make him LESS likely to fuck a married woman... NOT more... And the fact that he knows Aline 's husband fairly well makes this whole scenario even less likely.

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FIFTH... the author has made Doug more sympathetic than ever. He does 100% the exactly right thing when the daughter jumped on him while he was sleeping. Debbie over hears the entire conversation.

Is she impressed? NO... she throws Doug out and and as the entire relationship.... because he did the RIGHT thing!!?!!?

How fucked up is THAT???.

what must Doug be thinking? maybe if I fucked kelly then debbie would still want me....

This installment is much better than the last four. I didn't see why Bill should apologized to Aline except unless he was playing an angle to get in her pants. Unless in future installments we see some more background on Aline and her marriage....like maybe she is separated and trying to decide on divorce becasue he husband is a cheating and crooked prosecutor...then I just can't be comfortable with Bill condescending to Doug's level to heal by fucking a married woman of a "work friend". I'm not condoning Doug's actions but at least he didn't befriend Bill before he fucked Debbie.

I liked that the kid's are finally starting to confront their mother for being an unfaithful slut. Looks like the kids are starting to see the big picture and Bill wasn't the main problem in the family,

I'm really getting bored with Debbie and Bill both constantly putting Bill down. Bill needs to wake up and grow a set or maybe buy some prosthetic balls.

It will be good to see the daughter go off to college and BJ ask to live with his dad and leave Debbie alone. Actually, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Debbie commit suicide at the end of this tale but that would a way too definitive ending for DQS and then Bill might have a chance to be happy would would never do.

I've been unemployed for over a year(damn economy) and been reading quite a bit on Literotica and SOL. Am I the only one who noticed that lots of authors on both sites and across genres seem to make references to Robert Heinlein?

Debbie's affair with Doug has now hit a low point with Debbie getting competition for Doug from her Daughter, Kelly. Debbie will possibly attempt to block her divorce from Bill while Bill may exhibit mixed feelings about the divorce's finality. Now Bill is "only just beginning to enjoy his social life." and if Kelley's right, what younger guys will chase after her mother whose now showing her age of 40? Put all of this factors together and you have a great storyline with an interesting, engaging continuation to come. Bill's now hot and determined, Debbie knows it and realizes other gals have also ascertained this as well. A mystery is whether there will be a continuation of the cruise romance between Bill and Aline, which would give Debbie much grief (which she deserves!). DQS is spinning a great story. It's serious Hollywood material and could be made into something special under the direction the caliber of the late Billy Wilder who, himself, as a young man, wanted to become a lawyer.

The most interesting detail was that both Bill and Debbie have the same image of him in their heads. Debbie does not believe he will attract any women and he still believes that he is unattractive...

Very powerful erotic moment. I am not sure if he will be happy in the morning though. On the other hand, I am sure that Aline will be singing

in the shower....

I've been enjoying this story a lot, and this latest chapter was a good read. But I have a big problem with it: Debbie does not appear to be even close to worthy enough to be married to Bill, or anyone else, for that matter. She seems supremely selfish, and shows no real love for anyone else. This is bad because it robs the story of a tough decision - should Bill get back together with her or not? Right now, the answer is so clearly "not" that it's not even funny.

But as badly as she's been portrayed in previous chapters, she comes off much, much worse in this one. What killed me was this paragraph:

"Stick up for Saint Bill. Why don't you go live with him if you're that crazy about him? Oh, I forgot, he didn't want you, did he? Plenty of time for other people's kids, but never for you and your brother. How many school events has he been to? How many has he missed? I know you love him, Kelly, even if he doesn't. But that's blinded you to the truth about him. If you were in my shoes you would have left him a long time ago."

I think it's downright evil of her to tell her daughter that her father doesn't love her. Even if it was true, which I strongly do not believe in this case, you just don't tell your children that! Kelly is going to have years of therapy, thanks to her "mothering skills" here. That is so low! No matter how much Bill and Debbie fight against each other, they can't try to tear their children's relationships with the other parent apart to score a minor rhetorical point against each other, which is just what she did here.

Author, I hope to god you're not going the reconciliation route, because you've made Debbie far too despicable. What she did with that comment was much worse than anything Doug did, and much more harmful for Kelly in the long run.

Very powerful. Very well written.

The diner table interplay between Bill and the priest with the Captain's Table guests as foils is a great expression of the heroic nobility of the best of men. The ending, two people married to others who somehow seem intertwined in the story though they have never met is a fitting cap. Even the arguement between mother and daughter is so real.

This is a great addition to Chapter 3; I think there is probaby a section E before moving on to Chapter 4. I will just wait.

the further you go in this story, the more unpleasant it gets with all of your characters. Is your world so shitty that every person you discribe has major character flaws and a lot of them? the next best thing is to make mother like daughter right? so the poor Debbie is now not the only person when you wisper something in her ear the only reaction you will receive is an echo. no , now you have the daughter on the same level as well as the married french bimbo.

of course you had to make our angel of death a little bit more human, so you led him down to do something he would never do at all and for damn sure not at this point where his brain is still filled with all the action that took place the last couple of months.

you maybe thought this was a nice thing to do but believe me, after this chapter I would not wonder now if the last immaculate character so far , the son would rape his mother or sister or both of them, just for fun, make a pornmovie out of it and sell it.

your characters loose everything , every single reliability. the are all broken out of madhouse. if that's your world, it's not fun living in it.

but it's kind of fun to read cause nobody knows what is the next stupidity they do. they have all no self esteem at all, no pride , no nothing, they might have had the chance to go to good schools and learn by heart a lot of things, like poems but unfortunately they did not understand a damn word of what they have read.

It's really nice to see some characters with real depth - especially in this category!

And it is true that "You're no GaryAPB" - in my book, you're a much better writer.

I am enjoying this story more than a "Five" can show. You weave a wonderfully complex tale with diverse characters. I have been engrossed by the questions you pose since the beginning. Thank you. I trust you to take the story somewhere interesting and provocative.

Sounds like the slut of a wife is starting to feel some of the pain she inflicted on Bill. I hope it continues to pour down on her. I can't believe Bill still blames himself and his job for everything bad that has happened. If the slut had simply asked for a divorce, or better yet communicated clearly and directly her feelings before that point then maybe they would still be togather. Instead she decided to date other people, lie and belittle him and, in the end, fucking Doug before she asked for the divorce. I'm still hoping the emails find their way into the open. Her daughter has her pegged, a selfish, self centered slut who has never loved anyone in her life. That's what her actions portray anyway. I'm glad to see Bill's life's looking up, he has no reason to consider himself married, that ended as soon as the slut asked for a divorce, the rest is just legal mumbo jumbo. Here's hoping he continues to improve, maybe his lover can help him regain his confidance. I'm hoping we'll get to read some of her back story, she has no reason to feel guilty if her husband is sleeping around (though it'd have been better if she had just divorced him), no reason for her to be loyal to someone hanging the horns on her! Good job, looking forward to the next chapters.

I purposely did not start to read this until I was home in the evening, secluded so I could read it start to finish without interruption. Much like I have done in the past iwth a book I cannot put down.

Seriously, DQS, are you a professional writer? What is your background? I think you need to publish if you havent already. Like another commenter said, this would make a very good love story in movie form. You need to get an agent and see if this can make you some money.

If you want to discuss further, patillie123@yahoo.com.

thanks for another installment... this is possibly the best story I've ever read here.

Love the twists and turns, the characters (e.g. the Priest), the dialogue. DQS1 can WRITE. And, finally Bill gets some pussy with a woman that seems to genuinely care about him and respect him. Well done; I am looking forward to the next installment.

i see the daughters reason for anger at her mom. but why the attempt of seducing doug? it didn't make sense to me other than being a plot device to show some more negative traits of debbie. could someone please elaborate why they think kelly tried to seduce doug?

i love how things are starting to look up for bill, but i cant believe he gave in to aline. that made me sad. both for her and his righteousness. yes, her husband is unfaithful but two wrongs don't make a right. i can only see if somewhat-justified if aline and bill end up getting married. but nonetheless, it doesn't lessen the fact that she had strayed while with philippe. insight?

I like this innovative "all villain" approach to story-telling. When everyone's a fuckface, it makes it a lot easier to keep score.

Anyone else catch the jibe at bill when he started having sex with Aline? She was tight when he put his dick in her and it is explained that she has been celibate for 6 months. Its like the author is basically saying a woman can't be satisfied by Bill's cock unless her pussy hasn't been touched by a cock in months.

This story is still the best story I've read here. I some times think you make Bill into an asshole for the things he says to his soon to be Ex, but I could see being an A**hole in the same situation and have been when I had even less cause. You really make the characters seem very real. I am pulling for them (all of them) to solve their problems and get on with their lives. Why am I pulling for ALL OF THEM? Because you are doing a wonderful job writing and making the characters into real human beings. I am sooooo looking forward to each installment.

your story and your writing get better and better. thanks for sharing

Can anyone spell statutory rape in the next chapter??? and Bill will handle the case for the state!!!

One thing I disagree with on- is Bill’s comment that Debbie had done a good job of rising their children. It seems to me that both of then are wild and somewhat out of control. That daughter is turning into a slut just like her mom, and the boy is out running around at all hours of the night. Not so good child raising in my humble opinion.

I think one of the things DQS is really good at is understanding how emotions color our thinking. We are not computing machines and we go on "tilt" to use poker terminology. And his characters are inconsistent the way we are. It's interesting in this chapter to see how far Bill and Debbie have come from those early chapters. Wonderful story.

Excellent! Oh, and about damn time Will. How much pussy has he passed up along the way?

The series is well written because of the manner in which the psychological reactions of the characters (albeit primarily Bill) are explored.

The criticisms appear mainly to be based on the poster's dislike of an event that takes place in the plot.

Keep up the great work!

Sean

He shoots--and he scores (finally). But he's soooo idealistic. She just about had to rape him. I mean come on, he's an attorney remember?!?!? IDEALISTIC?? And just when has Deb been a good mother? (Or even a good woman?) Bill can read eveyone so well except people he cares about, but with them his sensibilities are so blinded by his emotions he thinks they do no wrong unless it jumps up and bites his ass. Deb knew her underage daughter and her much younger BF were attracted to and teasing each other several chapters ago but she did nothing, burying her head in sand so she could keep getting the hot sex she soooo desperately wants. So she waits til she catches her daughter sucking her BF's dick? Good Mom?? How? And Deb's lucky to be getting rid of the guy so easy after the way she let him knock her around a couple of chapters ago AND THEN STILL CHASED AFTER HIM. OMG, what a piece of trash, whore to trash her husband and let her BF knock her around in her own home and then chase after the guy just to get some dick! But its all Bill's fault says Psycho Deb, even if Kelly actually tells Deb she's just acting like she's always seen her Mom act. Deb's like every psycho I've met: Never wrong and always finding someone else to blame for the problems they've caused. So let's settle this question once and for all, Is Deb the one responsible for killing the marriage? Let's see, completely immoral, whitetrash Deb flaunts her affair(s) and screwing her BF in everyone's face, including the kids, right up to the time her underage daughter plants her lips on the guy's cock. Does Deb finally do the right thing by throwing Doug out, or is she jealous and just does not want to share? How can anyone think this closet nympho didn't doom her marriage from the get go? Her needs are so simple: constant attention and monitoring to keep her from being felt up, or more, by 1/2 the phone book, and 8+ inches of man meat. CONSTANTLY! THAT'S BY HER OWN ADMISSIONS. Paris Hilton needs less attention than Deb does. Bill knew it but didn't express it correctly; he knew he couldn't control her. Even her own kids knew their father couldn't control her: Kelley in this chapter (see above) and BJ from chapter 1. So every objective vote scores nympho, psycho Deb as being too hot pantied to stay married (even Deb herself: "Why can't I be happy (read: well fucked like in college)? That worthless..(Bill)"), yet some yahoos still buy Deb's periodic rambling justifications: "Its Bill's fault." (Read, Deb says: Why did we have to grow up, get old and get real jobs and cellulite and be responsible adults and stop doing gang bangs like in college, and that bitch Kelly can go get her own BF.) Still buy its Bill's fault? Then I've got a bridge... And Miss Author, you write a macho chapter but I'm still sure you're a LADY. Bill's approach to women reminds me of seeing The Man from LaManancha. Leaving the theater ALL the women were in tears, and ALL the guys shrugging, I don't get it. "Oh its a women thing, guys don't get

it," said my date. But YOU get it don't you Miss DQS? Bill: idealized twat; Don Quixote: dream the

impossible dream.

Debbie. I am truly enjoying your story, and I thank you for it. The dialogue reads like a movie script and so I picture the story as if I'm watching a movie. I want to counter the few negative feedback that I've just read, as I look forward to each chapter. The emotions and imagination that you have evoked here for me has been more than with anything I've read inside or outside of Literotica. Thank you again, and I hope you continue. Should you decide to publish this as a novel, I would buy it.

Too see the reaction's when Bill get's home and hear's about his Wife

and Daughter and how he Deal's with Dougie.

it will be interesting if Bill brings Aline home with him.

and his wife see's how she lost what she Failed to Fight for.

Your such a boring piece of shit.

"As she walked past BJ's bedroom she didn't notice the door open a fraction of an inch and then close." <P>

The kid is going to spill his guts. He heard everything his Momma did. He might tell his dad. So we have a confrontation between Doug and Bill. Or maybe Doug does some time and has to show of those boxing skills. Thank you , this is a fantastic story.

Compelling and complex writing. Looking forward to seeing where you take the story!

I don't know if jennybear is reading DSQ1's mail but she certainly seems to know where this is going. Her comments for the last couple of chapters have been right on. I'm waiting to see whar kelly_ kelly has to say.

Thank you so much for the imagination and hard work that you are putting into this story, which is good enough to go between two hard covers some day. Your plot, dialogue, and coloration are superb, and it's wonderful reading a story with excellent grammar. My only regret is the long time lapses between submissions, but I shall gladly wait to enjoy this quality. Thanks again -- it's a six out of five.

"Doug, you know you want me. I'm not a kid. I've seen the way you look at me when you don't think she's looking and in the pool that day...."

"Look. I look at you when your mom doesn't notice because I'm a guy. You are gorgeous. But that's all it is. And that day in the pool...that was a mistake..I just...it was a mistake.

Did Doug already screw or do something with Kelly at the pool? What was “MISTAKE AT THE POOL”. Did I miss something/ Did DSQ have Debbie miss something?

As with the whole story, it's been very enjoyable to read.

We're starting to get a little more going on but still waffling back and forth. It's getting pretty tedious that Bill doesn't see himself as being attractive to women. OK, he's not Casanova but let's get real here. He'd have to be totally dysfunctional to not realize that he has a certain appeal, especially since he's been working out. Time to move past that. Another revelation is when Bill states he can NEVER forgive Debbie for her behavior. Unless those are just trite words, which would undermine the whole story, it seems like reconciliation is out (Thank God). So where can this story go? Debbie and Doug and Debbie and Bill are over. Bill has no other current prospects. The kids are on the warpath but that's a substory at best. Seems like to move this on you will have to start up almost a whole new story. Hopefully one with a little more sense of urgency.

Doug cheats, steals and lies to grab another mans wife-then whines "its not fair" when Debbie dumps him.

Debbie after screwing over her "older" husband complains "its not fair" when her boy toy is looking at another "younger" version of herself.

DQS1 must be a fan of the old TV show "My Name is Earl". The poor mans version of Karma:

-Do Good things, Good things happen to you

-Do Bad things, Bad things Happen to you

Thanks for the read

This is a good story, well written, but it is just a soap opera! Everyone doing everyone, good guy becoming bad guy, bad guy becoming good guy, slut becoming moral, moarl woman becoming slut! A great big, long, and very drawn out circle! Nothing wrong with a serial, but god god, move it along already will ya!

The best chapter yet.

DQS,

Write your story and (we'll) read it.

Thanks for 03D. Look forward to 03E or 04. Oh Boy this is great.

x

After I finished the latest installment of your Opus I went back and read The Dream Wife again. I'm pleased that you brought Dan and Bill together for a few moments on the cruise.

The two men have a lot in common having both been almost destroyed by the same type of woman. Dan's Holly and Bill's Deb could almost be sisters. Interestingly, Aline and Caroline also have a striking psychic resemblance to each other.

Thank you again for this amazing read. I'll continue to check each day hoping to spot the next chapter.

The characters are complex and many of the scenes are emotionally powerful, but overall the development is slow, and the plot so far makes no sense at all. I am waiting for developments that will bring the plot into a meaningful focus, but am not holding out much hope.

I found myself excited to find another WWWM chapter today. As always this series is great read. And I loved the line about the 6 or 7 centimeters of most valuable human real estate ...ain't that the truth.

Keep up the great work.

I can't wait to read how you're going to continue to develop this story!! Please hurry with the next chapter(s). The more I read this story, the more I come to totally dislike Debbie.

Good to see Deb get served up a long, cool glass of reality only to find it not too satisfying! Her confrontation with Kelly was a nice wake up call as to how much of a cheap slut she really is. It will be interesting to see how she tries to fix this one. Does BJ tell his dad what really happened? Does Kelly? Does Bill go hunting for Doug? I hope not. For once, Doug did the right thing...though there was the episode in the pool. Hmm.

As for Bill and his moral dilema, I think we'll find out the Aline is either separated or widowed (after all, Phillipe had many enemies)...wearing the ring to keep the wolves at bay while she heals. She talks about being married as does Bill...afraid to open the door to potential pain again. She is angry with Bill for breaking through the wall she had put up to protect herself. I think (hope) we see much more of Aline in the coming chapters. Debbie's already low self esteem will manage to find a new low after seeing Bill and the hot French woman with deep and real feelings for each other. I can't wait to watch the cockaholic slut fall hard off the wagon and start chasing after all the young cock BJ brings around. That'll push him (and hopefully Kelly, as well) into looking to Bill for some guidance. Now that Bill has had an epiphany of sorts, he'll make sure he is there for them.

At least that's my take. Can't wait to see where you take us.

I have confidence in your ability to write a story. You have a great way of describing emotions and the logical actions resulting from these feelings. I hope Bill's new lover is no longer married as I would like one character to have some morals. Whichever way it develops I'm sure that it will be enjoyable to read.

Thank you for your efforts.

An Appreciative fan

A few people have commented about how Doug was such a great guy in this chapter for not having sex with an underage girl. That's like saying, there's this husband who sleeps with every skank he can get his hands on, but at least he doesn't beat his wife. Doug's a jerk and always has been. Besides, even though I think he's going get his in the end, up to now, he's not doing too bad. He got to bang the best looking MILF in Florida. And what was the big consequence of sleeping with Debbie, she broke up with him. Also, in three weeks he's going to have her daughter, who is apparently the best looking 18 year old in the state, as well. Poor Doug?

A good story with some interesting foreshadowing. It is always a good day when we find a new chapter to this narrative.

Keep going! The only bad thing is that it does have to have a resolution....unless you are planning a WWWM chap 45D? :-)

This thing is written exactly in the soap opera style. Characters are complex seeming, but all the complexity, when analyized, is actually a vacillating emotional cartoon person who goes nowhere. The scenes are emotionally charged but go nowhere. Sure, all us readers are emotional and commenting like crazy, just like soap operas. There is no plot that goes from a beginning to an end and teaches something meaningful. The purpose of a soap opera is to go nowhere but keep everyone engaged as long as possible. Is this bad? Soap opera writers are well paid because they do their job well. Most even know who they are and are happy, as they should be. I am enjoying the writing (even though I have to skip over the many, many redundant scenes and dialogue) and I'm enjoying all the comments. So, I will keep reading. But I sure as hell am not fooling myself into thinking I am reading great fiction.

At times I get to the point where I don't want to read the story anymore because of Bill being such a wimp about himself. Then I find myself coming back to the story because I have to find out what is going to happen.

Great story trying to wait patiently for the next chapter...

I find myself searching through the new postings everyday to see if you have posted another Chapter for this story. It seems to have a real grip on a lot of readers, and I can certainly be counted in that group. I just wish there was a chance that Bill and Aline could find themselves in an enduring relationship, but it is your story.

I am so glad to see the line of 'doing the right thing' come up! Good that he is hopefully taking the proactive life style. I think it will compliment him so well with his hard drive in the office!

Damn Kelly! She came out of left field! It was shocking to see well read that part of the story, and i can so see her heading to Doug's apartment when she turns 18, especially if she is anything like her mother at that age!

Deb i think did the right thing in kicking Doug to the curb. I'd hate to see that strong willed woman give into what she heard. Though from Bill's remarks about her at the end, i think he will just treat her like a slut/whore not his ex wife if she ever got into the sack with him again. But i can see him taking a hardness to her if/when he finds out Doug had slept with Kelly... OMG Don't tell me Bill Jr is going to speak about it when his father comes back from the cruise!!!

Awesome follow up, can't wait to read the next installment!

Washing escargots down with coffee? Telling a woman

how much a gift had cost him? Wow...will I ever understand

the barbaric streak in American men?

Wonderfully written story, though (smile). Looking out

for the rest.

. . . for not cutting his balls off (figuratively) and letting the poor schlub get lucky with a hot piece of strange pussy. Why is it you women writers always want to inflict your wimp/women mentality on men, and try to make us believe that Bill would have second thoughts about having sex with a "french hottie" and honor a marriage to a cheating slut, and that he would concern himself about balling his friends wife, when they both have made it very clear that fidelity isn't a big part of their marriage. Obviously you have enjoyed writing this chapter of pseudo male psyche, as much as I have enjoyed reading it, and hopefully Bill will be able to hang on to his balls in the chapters to follow.

This chapter was terrific and more than made up for several previous chapters that seemed slow and contradictory. We find out that Bill is human after all. At least his mojo still works! Doug gains some sympathetic elements. A teenager shows that she has both a mouth (in more ways than one) and an attitude -- no surprise there, and very realistic!

This part of the story moved along with a drama and intensity that made it difficult to stop; a sign of a really good read. The writing was superb and very precise. I only caught one tiny error (maybe a typo?) indicating dinner with the captain was occurring early in the morning ("I took the elevator to Deck Quatre and entered the main dining room at about 7:10 a.m."). I am sure that were it my story, there would have been far more mistakes than this triviality. I'm enjoying this a lot and looking forward to the next installment. Please keep it going.

Finally--after months--Bill gets a piece of strange. And it's from a hot-looking Euro Babe, no less. WHEW! My blue balls by proxy has finally disappeared.

Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to amplify CPete's comment: What happened by the pool between Doug and Kelly. I'm, frankly, amazed that it took so many comments before someone picked up on this. I picked up on it in the first reading, and I'm amazed Debbie didn't cue in on it immediately. That's what is so nice about this more relaxed, elongated writing style DQS is using in this tale. He throws us, almost in passing, little nuggets that, if you're paying attention, will come back to play a major role later in the story. Those nuggets here, as I see them, are:

1. What happened between Doug and Kelly by the pool?

2. What's the son going to do with his newfound knowledge of the encounter between Doug, Kelly, and Debbie?

3. Why hasn't Aline been laid in 6 months? And does she have an open marriage? The lack of sex, even for a cruise ship employee, indicates her marriage is in trouble, as does her knowledge that her husband is banging everything he can get his hands on and pecker into.

4. Are we going to see a re-appearance of the poor New Jersey couple who won the Lotto? The one where the wife may be falling in love with another man?

Oh yeah, we've got these questions and more left to be answered. Maybe they'll all be answered, maybe they won't. Maybe they play a role in the plot, maybe they don't.

Still, it's all wonderful fruit for thought until we are able to tune into the next installment of this outstanding and incredibly thought-provoking series!

Too Much bitterness! How can he look in the eyes of someone he is committing adultery with and decide he cannot forgive his wife for doing the same? He now is doing to another man exactly what Doug did to him! Your hero has become a villain, Debbie just gets worse and worse bad mouthing her husband to the children, and Kelly is going off the deep end. This story started out really well, the writing remains good, the characterization excellent, but....where are you taking us and why? Sorry, but I think I have had enough.

Read chapter 2C— page no.2 OR read this —

Kelly came in and gave her a hug. As Doug walked in, throwing his briefcase on a chair at the kitchen table, Kelly turned to him and reached up to kiss his cheek. Doug looked at her with a bemused expression, then started grinning as she dropped her bag and began to tickle him.

He grabbed her wrists and held her out away from him.

"Whoa, cowgirl. That's no-go territory."

"That wasn't what you said when we were in the pool the other day."

He shook his head and said, "Truce. Stop the tickling. I've had a long hard day and tickling isn't on the agenda tonight."

Kelly made a face at him.

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They both had a "tickle war" at the pool...

~Kelly~

I truly enjoy your writing and like so many others, I log on each day to see if there is a new submission. I thought this was a more fast paced chapter and was one of the best ones. But I was disappointed with Bill's decision to have sex with Aline. In a sense, as he says, he is no better than Doug for sleeping with a married woman. Unless he knows something the audience doesn't ( they are divorced, Phillippe is dead, etc), I think his actions are disengenious. But we will see where you take us with YOUR story. I know I'm looking forward to it each and every day. Thanks for writing, Tim

Several chapters ago Kelly reminded Doug what he did when they were in the pool. Now she did it again but still no details. This time Debbie heard it but didn't challenge either one of them. She's still thinking with her cunt. <P>

I don't understand why some of you think Doug is admirable for rejecting Kelly's advances. Duh, that's considered the normal thing for an adult male to do with an underage female. <P>

Glad to see Bill finally got laid. I was worried, he was going to back out. It's amazing how he caught Debbie's offhand remark "When we were married" Yet doesn't grasp plain english when women tell him they find him attractive and sexy. Perhaps they should just make some obscure statement. <P>

Great stuff, I wish I could give you more than a five.

I recall the tickle eposide/encounter described by kelly_kelly in an earlier chapter. However there must have been something more going on in the pool then for Doug in this chapter to keep claiming to Debbies daughter Kelly "..it was a mistake.." over and over. Perhaps not sex-but flashing, groping, quick kisses into deep kisses, something "bad" enough for Doug to know it was wromg and keep claiming "..it was a mistake.."

Guess we will have to wait and see if DSQ1 has this as a important part of the story-or just a side event.

Fantastic writing, and a great, great story. Oh, and that word ---'gibbous' What a great word. I had to look it up. Thanks for the entertainment.

Now I know where DQS1 gets some of his skills. You don't read Heinlein, you study Heinlein as he is not only a great SIFY writer, he is a brilliant satirist.

Now to the differences between Bills sex and Debbie's cheating. Debbie went out of her way to develop a relationship with Dougie and have sex before even applying for a divorce. Bill though technically still married did not go out of his way and try to seduce anyone and only had sex when he was almost raped, and then still had reservations about it because he was technically still married although Debbie had kicked him to the curb and the marriage is over except the final signature on the paper. So I ask you in all fairness, did Bill cheat?

As for the comparison between Dougie and Bill, Dougie Had a campaign to have sex with the sexy older lady and pursued that tact until he succeeded. Bill did not go looking for a woman, and/or man to have sex with. NO COMPARISO.

Bill had sex with a married woman, "true" but did not seduce her and try to insert himself into her marriage.

Alian knew her husband, Philippe was screwing around as he made no attempt to be discrete and openly flaunted his affairs, then she fell in love with Bill.

At one time I was in the reconciliation camp as I thought that was where this story was headed, but I now see a Franco, North American merger coming with Bill and a divorced Alian getting together and Debbie in a mental institution because she is one sick bitch (puppy) blaming all her problems on Bill.

I also see Dougie in a hospital ward recovering from his latest round of plastic surgery when Bill gets through with rearranging his facial features.

DQS1 pleas hurry with the next installment. Keep up the good writing.

Hi: J

thanks Tom

until I had to explain to my wife why. I enjoy reading the comments. And I enjoy reading them, coming from some, very well known and probably hated here, persons. I especially enjoy reading the comments of angiquesophie and the last one about "escargot" was really something.

In my country, somewhere in southeast Europe, we really like them. We can have them as an "ëntree" or as a main course, in our homes. But, NOBODY could EVEN THINK to use coffee to wash them down. Of course we prefer red wine while eating and coffee is served only in the place where NO woman can go ( kafenio ). I just know now that angiquesophie will come and brake this "ävaton", just for the heck of it.

at least somebody comment that two very bad slips. I would like to add one more: How can somebody ask for a Blood Mary at 2:00am during a sort of date with a beautiful woman? Didn't he ever listen about sparkling beverages? Wouldn’t he consider the possibility of kissing her? Did he wonder if she would enjoy the taste of tomato in his mouth?

In a discussion between Debbie and Doug, she mentions to Doug that Bill is on a vacation cruise but won't enjoy himself because the passengers will be primarily having a hot time with a lot of sex. Bill doesn't participate in making love any longer. Well, what she doesn't know won't hurt her. I hope his newly reacquired activities begun with Aline continue on his return to town.

"Debbie in a mental institution because she is one sick bitch (puppy) blaming all her problems on Bill."

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What problems does Debbie have that Bill isn't a big part of? She is divorcing a husband who has long ago stopped being the husband he was 10 years ago. (See Bill's dream. If he had maintained any thing like that level of passion, we would NOT have a story.)

Her job is in jeopardy because Bill created a scene at the awards banquet. (Yes, he was "entitled" to but he did show his ass.)

I know to say this is heresy here on a male dominated literotica sight, but if Bill had given a shit about the marriage, he could have done something about it ending. All his troubles are of his own doing.

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However this turns out is OK with me. Debbie will have no trouble at all in getting a man to spend the rest of her life with. Call her a slut if you like but she was faithful to her husband until he walked out on her. (I know she screwed Dougie a few days before she filed for divorce so technically she cheated.) And she was faithful to Doug, as much as there was to be faithful to.

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Bill will have no trouble attracting a good, sexy woman IF he wants one. I hope that the thing with Aline was an interim deal. She is GU. (Geographically Undesirable)

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If they get back together, they both love each other more than either knows. Yes, they both are saying no way, jose, but all it would take is a half-way decent marriage counselor to head them in the right direction. For the kids sake I hope this is the way it goes. Kids need 2 parents, not 1 resident and an absentee parent.

Debbie gets a lot of flack in the comments about her selfishness, but in all fairness, she has sent Doug packing more than once when family issues were a concern. She called him and told him not to come over when BJ was discovered at home when he was skipping school. IICR in every known situatuin she has screwed Dougie in her house or was going to screw him in her house when the children were thought to be away. I suspect that there was some late night fucking with the children in the house they were supposed to be asleep. I'm not condoning this, just expressing my opinion that Debbie is not nor has not been as irresponsible as she appears -- and she does appear to be irresponsible.

Her bitching about Saint Bill may be what seems like blaming Bill to you. I assert that her bitching to Kelly, her mother, and BJ about Bill is a combination of guilt she feels for wanting a divorce and what she perceives as no one understanding her needs from the marriage. I for one do not agree with the notion that she didn't ever really love Bill but it was hero worship or something. Hero worship relationships and marriages don't last 20 years. Bill and Debbie definitely had something at the 10 anniversary cruise.

Carlos, <P>

I have to tell you. If I make enough guesses, sooner or later I will get one right. However, some of them are no-brainers. <P>

I loved this chapter, a great piece of writing. I’m quite sure one way or another Deb is going to see Bill with Aline. Or at the very least find out about her. Perhaps Deb or the kids will meet Bill when the Bonne Chance returns to port. Hopefully Q will have Aline spend some time in port, I’m sure he will find a way around her contractual obligations to the cruise line. Deb will eat her cheatin heart out. I want her to feel the pain. <P>

I checked out your profile. Very nice photo, you’re hott! <P>

Jen

I'm relieved when I read the conversation between Dan Jenkins and Bill Maintland — why? It proves Bill Maitland is NOT the bill who hooks up with Holly in — The Dream Wife. (Thank GOD) And finally — Rocky Balboa got laid.

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Is Doug out of the picture? Eh huh...NO. Doug and Debbie both work at the same place — UNF. They'll definitely run into each other. Three months together with Debbie — and Douggie knows what button to push — He grabbed her by the shoulders and pulled her to him. She let him kiss her and let herself enjoy it for a moment. It didn't matter anymore. She felt his cock start to get hard and herself start to get wet. It was just that easy and quick — they’ll be together — again.

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After reading this chapter the first thing that came in my mind was — people like Ms. Aline des-Jardins don't get "emotionally attached" with their job/assignments.

"You weren't just a job, Mr. Maitland," she said. She stepped into me and before I knew it she was searching for my tonsils with her tongue. I returned the favor — how can this happen? In last chapter Aline gets pissed off at Bill so much she says — “Go FU@# Yourself.” Then in this chapter — at the beginning, Bill is refused to enter "Alpha Lounge" — "I'm sorry sir, but Ms. des-Jardins informed us that you might be coming and told us to tell you that you were not welcome here." Later she's at the deck with Bill, hears his story, accepts his apology, and they play tonsil hockey? Having sympathy or feeling sorry for someone is one thing, but getting "emotionally attached" was kinda unbelievable. She had all information about Bill with his picture. She knew why he was there on the cruise, she was "assigned" to baby-sit Bill, — but she's smitten by him?

Also, there’s no comparison between Bill and Doug. Doug was a predator, he calculated every single move and seduced Debbie, and Bill didn’t do any such things.

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I’ve one BIG problem with the way Debbie’s portrait is drawn. Chapter after chapter after chapter she’s still that shallow, selfish, self-centered woman who thinks from between her legs. She’s a wife (she still is) a mother, a professor by profession — and she doesn’t have ONE single positive trait? She blames Bill again and again…The thought of Bill having another woman is more than disturbing for her — When Kelly says what her friends think about her (MILF and all) she takes it as a “compliment” and she says — “Your teachers and professors in college will be offering you all kind of opportunities for easy grades. You just have to be a little friendly, that's all. I've been there.” Not a single positive bone?

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God! Kelly has a “unique” vision for the future — she’s planned everything. What she’s going to wear when she’ll show up at Doug’s apartment, join UNF for a four-year program, babies and all — was this just a “taunting” OR is she really going to do it? Remember that nightmare scene, and then Debbie goes in Kelly’s room and sleeps next to her? There Debbie says something like — “You know I love you and your brother the most in this world?” Kelly doesn’t reply to this. This chapter shows why...I wonder if Bill Jr shares the same feeling.

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What next?

1. When Debbie will get back from her meeting — Kelly will be gone (That’s obvious). Bill Jr was home when that scene happened — I won’t be surprised if BJ joins Kelly and they both leave the house. It’s time for Debbie to go into a shell and share her share of misery. Also, there might be another conversation between Debbie and her mother.

2. Kelly will be 18 in three weeks. She’ll be an adult — and I’m afraid that something is going to happen with her. A tragedy — maybe. Bill said he’ll always be there for the kids, and Debbie. Is such tragedy will bring Bill and Debbie together? Will Debbie tell Bill what happened? She said she won’t let Bill know what happened — but when Bill comes to know why Kelly is at her grandparents’ place — the cat will be out of the hat. OR BJ will spill the beans?

3. The much awaited “Fight Scene” what can trigger it? Is Doug going to have Kelly too and brag that he had both “HOT” mom and daughter? OR rub it in Debbie’s face that her daughter is ready to spread her legs for him? It’ll definitely anger Bill.

4. Now that Bill is finally had a woman (Aline) — he’s definitely going to change. There are chances that he’ll have Myra — the bombshell secretary.

5. Ms. Aline des-Jardins might join Bill — wouldn’t it be fun when Debbie see them together, she’s a “misconception” that Bill can’t attract women anymore. It’ll be fun to read her reaction.

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RE: CarlosC — the woman you asked about in the earlier chapter, I think was Myra, Edward’s secretary

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DQS, I’ve one request. Please submit future chapters on Tuesdays — it takes two days for a story to get published on LitE. So the next chapter(s) will be published on every Saturday. Like majority of the readers I always look for a new chapter or any kind of update from you. There are many readers who come on this site only for WWWM. It’ll be like watching an episode on every Saturday OR choose any day of your choice. Just give it a thought.

~Kelly~

A commentor on one of the previous chapter's recommended a program called "WebMon" to watch author pages for updates. I've been using it for a couple weeks to follow about 8 authors on Literotica. It works pretty good but it will also alert if the page just updates with the "H" flag being added to a story or the "N" flag being removed. Still. with multiple authors the program does a good job of letting me know when an author adds a new story. I recommend it.

Great chapter!

As I have previously mentioned, I delight in the comments as much if not more than the stories. I try to stay out of the debates... (allota luck with that) and sit back and enjoy. However... size14shoe, I can not see where you are coming from... Debbie is not evil, I do not hate her, but DQS1 has let us see her through Bill's, children's, friend's eyes and thoughts. Even Debbie;s own thoughts. She flirts and welcomes groping from men, always has. Her children complain of her actions with their friends, she keeps her own actions secret from her husband, she keeps her childrens actions secret from her husband, and BLAMES HIM FOR IT. She keeps Bill from knowing about their lives and tells the children that he doesn't care for or even matter to them.

Debbie grabs Lew's crotch, offers to blow and screw him, (she is supposedly friends with his 'mousey' wife). Did Bill at work make her do that? Debbie denies it and complains constantly, but the situation is entirely of her own making. The emails scared her to death, because she could not deny or refute them. No sane or rational person should ever discuss personal details to anyone but their spouse or a professional. Not 2 women friends or 2 men friends. I do not mean like, he works to much, he doesn't understand me, or things like that. They are common and generic and relatively safe, But intimate details? Only an idiot would say things intimate, no matter how much of a friend you believe them to be. She revealed way to much of Bill and her own thoughts to Dougie and she knows it.

size14shoe, you say that Debbie has been strong and thrown Dougie out repeatedly, what...?, She has fits and 'bouts of sanity', but if that is true than why is he always coming back? if you throw someone out, they usually stay away, who is inviting them back? If Debbie had brain one, or a modicum of decency, she would have never had Dougie in her home, let alone Bill's bed. She could go to Dougie's for a booty call, then go home to her children. Why not?, she explains that she hates the young competition at his apartment, (jealousy)

size14shoe, if you are just taking the weak side of the debate, to keep the conversation going... fine, I understand. But if you truly believe that Bill is to blame for the situation of work and homelife that Debbie devised, worked for, created. I do not understand.

thanks DQS1

Gus

Anon's are usually known to have the brains of fleas --- but think they are Rambo's and John Wyane's and A'nold the Terminator combined into one and would even email people, saying they like to kick some ass OVER VIRTUAL space! --- and all they could do with their mindless drooling is: "Oh, my gawd, dear author, you sure you're not related to the Bard or Lord Alfred Tennyson or Elizabeth Barrett Browning?".... so let me *answer* Harry in VA's repeated *concerns*: <p>

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NOT happy with this at all... here is WHY...

It is ironic that Numerous ANONYMOUS posters will says How great this chapter is but never explain WHY they think so... but if you post a negative comment ... DONT post anonymously and give a detailed explanation ... you are viewed as being a Troll... <p>

Sorry but as I read this a second time I have to come the conclusion that this chapter makes no sense at all. <p>

*** Whether a chapter or an entire story "makes no sense" is WITHIN the PURVIEW of the writer, so I don't even bitch about that. This is FICTION, not reality, so even within a senseless context --- of dialogues and actions --- the AUTHOR still needs to be in control. SOME dubious logic needs to exist WITHIN THAT illogical world or mind. <p>

*** If, for example, Debbie is CLEARLY in some calculated mode when it comes to her decisions, her actions, etc. NO MATTER WHAT SHE DOES OR THINKS, I would have NO PROBLEM. Even when I *see* she is clearly out of her fucking head. As. She. Is. <p>

*** Please, note that the author is IN THE HEAD OF Ass Attorney William Maitland, speaking from a first person perspective. <p>

*** With Debbie, ON THE OTHER HAND, the author is an OMNISCIENT, an omnipotent. The author is aware of HER every thought, actions, and decisions. And the "HER" here is both the AUTHOR's and Debbies. Whatever Debbie is thinking, the author knows; and whatever the author is thinking, Debbie speaks it... <p>

This is clearly leading up to a some sort of reconciliation... hopefully NOT forced one... but I fear for the worse. Doug is now Gone and BILL has gotten laid and has been re-born. <p>

*** Again, whether a "reconciliation" is to be had or not, or whether it is a "forced one", is, again, within the PURVIEW of the AUTHOR. That, ultimately is NOT the reader's right to bitch about, even though we could be, we are bitching about it... If WITHIN the illogical, troubled, nonsensical world of the characters CREATED by the AUTHOR there's meaning, as far as the idiotic characters, per the author's judgement, for reconciliation, and most people SEE and UNDERSTANDING it, even if they don't like it... it is no one's business. <p>

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Only seeing her daughter act like a whore like she -- debbie -- has been has it finally reached her non existant Brain the cost of her actions. <p>

*** So, that says even within Debbie's vacuous head (and this is the assistant professor of what? business: why we never witness her teaching a class on why pyramid schemes are so popular among clever/scheming "investors", I have no idea... but as I said, 99% of her dialogues given by the AUTHOR is about Doug squeezing her breasts, ass, or putting his dick in her mouth... so I think Debbie being PORTRAYED as a HOUSEWIFE who barely graduated from high school... would have been better. But that's obviously my OPINION...) <p>

Only now does Debbie realize that she has NO moral standing at all to tell her daughter how to behave /act. <p>

*** Debbie IS seemingly beginning to be aware of that, if that's true... that's because the AUTHOR has MADE it so. ONLY NOW. Not before; but the author is omnscient and omnipotent, with Debbie's character. But the AUTHOR wants to pretend that that's not the case. Again, with William the short balding little hung, we have MORE DEGREES of thoughts with respect to HIS thoughts,,, since the author is CLEARLY about to create some DEGREES of independence from the author herself. We see William thinking, badly and not so badly, as he formulates those thoughts, and takes whatever actions according to what's going on, or not going on, in his little dickhead... So we are IN THE KNOW, if you will. Immediately, when William is able to think of some little things, we are right there by his right shoulder. <p>

*** That is NOT the case with Debbie. With the wife, the AUTHOR and the WIFE are the same. <p>

yet when confronted with this by Kellys's strong words Debbie is STILL blaming Bill. <p>

*** Again, I have no problem with that. In fact, I think that's rather "logical" in her mind; in the Author's mind... That's within their twisted right... <p>

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SECOND ... the Aline thing. It is really bad. The problem is in the previous chapter YOU made it clear that Bill is totally not up to having any sort of sustainable relationship. He is not ready emotionally and he is not ready mentally. <p>

Especially given how Aline Lied to him and betrayed him in the previous chapter then shit on him... as if it is is HIS fault. At the end of last chapter and in the beginning fo this one... the similarities in her behavior and Debbie's is EXACT. <p>

*** So? <p>

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THIRD In this chapter Aline admits and re-confirms what we already knew from the last chapter : that she knew who Bill was and what his story was BEFORE the scene where he told Aline his life / marriage story. <p>

Therefore her entire reaction at the end of the previous chapter and in the beginning of this chapter is even harder to get past. <p>

*** Again, so long as the AUTHOR makes the illogical presentation EXPLICIT, I see nothing wrong with it. <p>

her remarks FUCK YOU are even more hurtful.... and exceptionally nasty meaning and cruel. <p>

*** So? So what! <p>

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FOURTH the way the author portrayed Bill has made him an straight somewhat narrow mind very principled man. IF we assume that over the last several months bill has been either depressed or out of whack by the chain events and the collapse of his marriage.... The fact that Bill seems to be getting his core and SELF back would make him LESS likely to fuck a married woman... NOT more... And the fact that he knows Aline 's husband fairly well makes this whole scenario even less likely. <p>

*** That's not necessarily true. We KNOW how he's been struggling over the last a couple months, in circular manner within his little short balding brainless head... so whatever decisions he makes or NOT MAKE, it is all right with me. Okay, the fucker is really dumb. That's not a crime against nature or any one. <p>

*** Hell, I don't even care that the fucker is that dumb and yet is portrayed as some smart, analytical, hot shot "state" ASS Dist. Attorney who's not only hard working but affective and feared and respected professionally... <p>

*** Again, since HE IS THE ONE TELLING US all this crap, we, the READERS, need to take his word with some salt or butter. The idiot could be lying through his teeth. Indeed, the story he's been telling the READERS would be totally in HIS HEAD. This is a DEVICE clever authors commonly deploy, especially in long stories that psychosis could be depicted in believable ways... <p>

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FIFTH... the author has made Doug more sympathetic than ever. He does 100% the exactly right thing when the daughter jumped on him while he was sleeping. Debbie over hears the entire conversation. <p>

Is she impressed? NO... she throws Doug out and and as the entire relationship.... because he did the RIGHT thing!!?!!? <p>

*** Again, I have no problem with that. I have no problem with a CHARACTER making decisions, right or wrong, good or bad, legal or illegal, moral or immoral..... So long as the PARTICULAR DEVICE THE AUTHOR DEPLOYS is consistent, appropriate, and "logical" within her self-created world of her characters. <p>

*** The thinking, thoughts, actions, behavior, RESPONSIBILITIES, and consequences of, SAY, a housewife who barely graduated from high school... and her.... whose circle of friends, colleagues, and superior is NOT very big, important, or imperative ---- at least not more than the immediate vicinities beyond her immediately family and some close friends .............. it is very different from the thinking, thoughts, actions, behavior, and responsibilities and consequences of a COLLEGE PROFESSOR.... <p>

*** I am NOT saying college professors don't fuck around, or fuck up. They do. But I have hardly ever heard of professors bringing in other professors to their home --- after having kicked out their spouse --- and fuck loud and long on their marital bed, with THEIR TEENAGE KIDS telling them to "go and get a motel room" and NOT fuck in their little dickhead father's bed upstairs, at least not until the official divorce is done... <p>

How fucked up is THAT???. <p>

what must Doug be thinking? maybe if I fucked kelly then debbie would still want me.... <p>

*** That's why I said, in all of these 500 or so long, Literotical pages I have NEVER heard or read any thing Debbie (AND THE AUTHOR who's in the KNOW of Debbie's every action and thought...) did to be meaningful in any minimal way, even WITHIN HER LITTLE CONVOLUTED WORLD, created by the Author especially for Debbie.... All the AUTHOR ever allows Debbie to do is: either have her call her wimpy-assed, little balding, dickless husband and bother him with meaningless inquiries even he's not sure why.... OR, go: "OOhhhh, aaaah, Doug, you really go deep there.... take it easy, lover... I am gonna shit here on my marital bed, if you continue stimulating my clit like that.... something dickless was never able to do in 18 plus years..." <p>

*** I mean, hell, I, as a reader, won't even care if she's given a lot of that nonsensical monologues.... But if/when she's is portrayed as an ASSISTANT Professor at some reputable college/university, I expect some LIFE and LIVING on campus,,,, serious interactions with students and colleagues, on diverse and complex issues in the topics/subjects SHE is teaching or is interested in in some professional way... <p>

*** Do we see or know anything about her other than she loves to be fucked by Doug .... and thinks her husband is a dickhead who works too hard and long and who thinks HE doesn't belong in HER LEAGUE (per the author, via William) and CALLS him or shows up at his work, often, out of the blue, to tell him how she's moving on and HE TOO ougt to be doing the same thing and that she no longer loves him? NO! <p>

*** But the AUTHOR allows us to know William, though. We know --- per William anyway --- that he is, again, successful in what he's doing; he is respected; feared and admired (for the most part, he said). He works long hours and gets things done, meticulously in his line of work. Colleagues and opponents admire him for his dedication, intelligence (he tells us that, of course), and affectiveness as an assistant "state" attorney... <p>

*** On the other hand, if Debbie WERE simply portrayed as someone with an IQ of, oh,,, say, 89 or something (barely functional) --- and she COULD still be in a league out of William's orbital movement in PHYSICAL attractiveness --- her stupidity won't be a problem with me or any one who thinks the AUTHOR may just be a degree shy of Elizabeth Barrett Browning or, better yet, Mary Shelley (Wollstonecraft Godwin)...

Check out DQS1's profile. Male...age 51 to 60. You know what that means? It means that he's not a she. Daniel. Not Danielle. Get it? Sheesh.